The irony of certain people zerging hunts.

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Originally Posted by Skyl1n3

Trying (and I mean TRYING) to do hunts and no matter how quick I am I never get to a hunt before it's pulled since 2.5

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Did 2.5 give raiders a faster teleport and a mount speed bonus?

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Originally Posted by Kuwagami

a static getting both wouldn't need to zerg the hunt though as there is nothing more to beat for now. Maybe savage FCoB will come later, but for now, after T13 is done, there is nothing more to upgrade your gear for (apart faster win each week, but you don't need to zerg hunts for that)

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With 2 twine and 2 coat each week, it takes 1 month for each person in a static to get 1 of each. I can do hunts and get a twine in a couple days. Why wouldn't I?

I don't see the irony? There are tons of reasons to hunt even when you clear final coil. Heals get carbontwine upgrades last in most groups. RNG is not always in a statics favor either; your group can get the same (useless) drops over and over and over. You can also get glamor items and minions from hunts. I've been meaning to hunt again to get the GC chest. Last time hunts were popular all I did was spend my tokens on chocobo fruit seeds. D:

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Originally Posted by ShinryuReishiki

With 2 twine and 2 coat each week, it takes 1 month for each person in a static to get 1 of each. I can do hunts and get a twine in a couple days. Why wouldn't I?

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What I meant was that there was no need of it to :
=> gear faster, in order to
=> get the kill

Of course you can do hunts nevertheless to finish your BiS and/or gear alts, but there is no need of it, or rather, less of a need.

TIL raiders have faster casting teleports and their mount movement speed is faster than filthy casual players which causes them to always kill hunts before said casuals can get to them in time.

Thanks for the daily amusement, OF.

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Originally Posted by Skyl1n3

Trying (and I mean TRYING) to do hunts and no matter how quick I am I never get to a hunt before it's pulled since 2.5 and I look around afterwards and what do I see? Lots of people in a fair amount of Dreadwyrm gear.

So wait a minute... Ironwork gear and the Caboncoat/twine items in hunts is primarily for people who can't raid or don't have the time to commit (ie. casuals) yet there are people who can CLEARLY raid in Final Coil and get the aforementioned upgrade items in there along with i130 gear anyway zerging the hunts and being impatient about it to boot, but said people are quick to call people casuals and show off their FC gear.

OH. SWEET. IRONY.

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Thank SE for their questionable design decisions.

It's not that bad, and this is coming from someone who's semi-serious about raiding.

It's been 3 months since 2.4 launched, with Final Coil. I'm not going to act like it isn't an accomplishment to be happy about, but people have had the gear from the raids for some time now. It's commonplace to see people with 130 weapons, full 120, or some dreadwyrm pieces. It just isn't that surprising anymore, and no level of achievement is taken away for adding upgrade materials to hunts. I think the way they're handling this is a bit better than their last 'catch up' patch, too.

You still have to beat T11 in order to get the weapon, as opposed to the Sycrus Tower patch, where everyone was given free tomes if they got lucky. To get a carboncoat, you need to actually do 3 raids, and it's guaranteed rather than just random. You need to farm 3000 seals for a carbontwine, and while it isn't difficult, tome-based gear is never fully BiS. Even if a casual player wanted to, they wouldn't be nearly as efficient as someone who is rocking BiS, and they would also have to get around 3-4 more twines to even be full 130 on the left side.

Basically, anyone complaining about the availability of materials through hunts is mad at the fact that people with more determination than them can actually progress further, and faster. And as for raiders...People who raid still want upgrade materials, too, just so ya know. They're probably impatient because they know that the alternative is just waiting their turn to get it much easier, in their preferred method. I know this struggle, because I'm in the same position.

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Originally Posted by Massterchef

Did 2.5 give raiders a faster teleport and a mount speed bonus?

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considering a lot of people dont want to wait even a minute for people to reach the area and load

I think you're very ignorant thinking that raiders are somehow guaranteed a drop every single time. Have you ever raided before? Do you know of RNG?

I have been clearing FCoB since the 2nd week of its release and I had nothing to prove that I had cleared any of it until 5th-6th week when I finally found my Dragoon boots. Nothing is more frustrating then going into coils and hoping that luck favours you by:

a) Hoping it drops your gear
b) Hoping you can out-roll the other tank/healer/STR or DEX user (for accessories)
c) Hoping you can out-roll 7 other people for carboncoat/carbontwine

Granted, "b" and "c" are for non-static parties (like myself) because some people don't have the luxury of finding a static party.

Now with hunts being relevant again, I was able to finally obtain my first ever carbontwine. It goes without saying I upgraded an item that's BiS (as many people have already stated).

I don't "zerg" hunts. Don't make us all out to be the baddies just because you've seen or assume Dreadwyrm players always pull the Mobs first. When you do get around to raiding only to be disappointed week after week, let us know!

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Originally Posted by Massterchef

Did 2.5 give raiders a faster teleport and a mount speed bonus?

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No he is just slow and thinks that content shouldn't be for everyone. Sounds like a really toxic player.