Need some WHM Speedrunning tips please

There is a lot of good advice here already so I'd just like to mention the tank holds responsibility in speed runs too. Nothing annoys me more than a tank that pulls everything up to the first boss, uses one minor cooldown (if any at all), and calls it a day. If the tank expects you to speed up the kills by spamming Holy, they better be using some big cooldowns (looking at you, paladins who don't use Hallowed Ground) because I can't DPS when I have to babysit the wild roller coaster that is their hp bar.

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Originally Posted by EmeraldAres

Speed Runs are a regular part of a healer's experience who does not run with friends all the time, due to the popular demand of random players. I am usually not a fan of them myself unless the tank uses cooldowns properly and both damage dealers aoe well, so as to minimize the impact that the healer takes. Unfortunately, at least one member usually fails to live up to Speed Run expectations, making it more difficult for the healer. Due to a number of skilled and geared healers compensating for deficiencies in other roles, it has started to become expected that a healer can deal with almost anything. This isn't always the case, especially at lower gear levels.

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Sometimes (and it sounds like this is the OP's case) the group just has wildly unrealistic expectations for what a healer can do. I once had a tank that literally pulled half the dungeon. He died during the first global cool down. It doesn't matter if you have item level 10,000 gear, nobody could heal that.

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Originally Posted by Lyrinn

There is a lot of good advice here already so I'd just like to mention the tank holds responsibility in speed runs too. Nothing annoys me more than a tank that pulls everything up to the first boss, uses one minor cooldown (if any at all), and calls it a day. If the tank expects you to speed up the kills by spamming Holy, they better be using some big cooldowns (looking at you, paladins who don't use Hallowed Ground) because I can't DPS when I have to babysit the wild roller coaster that is their hp bar.

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Unless they have very low gear or they are extra terrible not moving out of AoE's as much as possible they should be fine to start with stoneskin on then divine seal regen and medica II. If you can't find time after that to shroud cleric stance swiftcast and holy then punch them in the face. After that you should be able to use presence of mind and get off a couple more before you need to drop cleric stance and heal. Holy also stuns so you are buying the Tank time to heal up.

So I read everyones advice, and I found it extremely useful. I have run brayflox 6 times this morning, using the advice from here, and have cleared it 6 times in a row.

The 3 holy followed by lots of healing strategy was amazing. so much more effective.

Thanks guys!

When you gonna have enough gear, you wont have to heal anymore, just to do regen and spam holy, with 2-3 stuns, they wont have time to dps a lot, and die before the tank lose life.

It might upset some parties, but at the start of the dungeon, lay it out front if you don't think you can handle a speed run, or if you think you're confident you can. Communicate with your tank. He needs you just as much as the party needs him. If he doesn't communicate back, or becomes stuck on stupid, then it's his fault if/when party wipes. The rudeness you've been through, OP, is why I personally detest speedrunners, and speed running in general.

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Originally Posted by tocsin

So I read everyones advice, and I found it extremely useful. I have run brayflox 6 times this morning, using the advice from here, and have cleared it 6 times in a row.

The 3 holy followed by lots of healing strategy was amazing. so much more effective.

Thanks guys!

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I'm glad you were able to get something out of this. Some groups may still try to blame you if they do something of a ridiculously stupid magnitude and die for it, but don't let those groups discourage you. From the sound of things, you should be safe from all but the stupidest of parties going forward. Good work.

Here's what I do for Brayflox, or any dungeon run to be honest.

Always try to have Stoneskin on tank before pull.
While tank is pulling and getting close to stopping, i pop Divine Seal and Regen on tank as soon as he's done Circle of Scorn/Overpower.
Immediately switch to Cleric Stance and start casting Holy. I usually do this three times, with a 4th Swiftcasted Holy. (Sometimes I swiftcast the first Holy if timing is off.)
If this is a really big pull. That's where i pop Benediction. Because the tank might die Before Cure II is finished casting.
Then just spam Cure II. Popping Prescence of Mind if needed.
Shroud of Saints at end of pull.

/edit I would never use Medica II on trash pulls. Slow cast, big mana cost, tanks get annoyed etc.
Medica or Cure III is more efficient (For example the Illuminati Sniper pull in Brayflox).

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Originally Posted by HoolieWho

If you have swiftcast up for a big pull, what do you think is the best use for it?

1. Holy
2. Medica II
3. Stoneskin
4. Other

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There is no perfect spell to use it on.
In theory, on every skill that has a casttime <= GCD it is only useful if you are on the move.
Other then that situational, I mostly save it for the Stoneskin II between pulls since the skill exists.

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Originally Posted by HoolieWho

If you have swiftcast up for a big pull, what do you think is the best use for it?

1. Holy
2. Medica II
3. Stoneskin
4. Other

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Medica 2 as after it is done casting i would tap regen then CS < on > then PoM hardcast stoneskin then holy spam with SS up. Yea.

Or if the tank is a bit undergeared then hardcast medica 2 -> regen -> CS < on > -> swiftcast stoneskin then use SS with PoM and then holy spam.

I usually save swiftcast for stoneskin cuz
-it just flat out stops damage as to how medicas and cures just heal but provide no defensive trait unless its regen hp stuff.
-holy is kinda out of the question as it is on gcd and if u r going to swiftcast holy, its better to swiftcast ur final holy than ur first holy.
* stoneskin is only getting better and better as time goes by as ppl's hp will keep on rising. Yay for scaling 18% shield o max hp.