*slaps* No. You will use that Ifrit and help us clear crap better or you will be considered a bad SMN, capiche? /slightjokingQuote:
Originally Posted by Prototype909
But really, use Ifrit for the trash mobs, his AoE cleave and skills really helps burn through them faster, otherwise you're making things harder on everybody.
Garuda might lose Contagion.
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12-02-2014, 03:22 PMRyuDragnier
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12-02-2014, 03:54 PMZairaRavvucompletely off topic, but i must know. what anime is your sig from? she is adorable :OQuote:
Originally Posted by Bigcat9715
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12-02-2014, 04:18 PMEvangela
all Egis shouldn't be more powerful than each others.
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12-02-2014, 04:22 PMCoatlWhat trash are we talking about? Because dots + contagion + bane is pretty nice. >.>Quote:
Originally Posted by RyuDragnier
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12-02-2014, 05:10 PMLemuria
I think they should be given additional skills to give them a bit more utility, rather than removing them. Ifrit, for example, could grant Enfire to the party, adding additional fire damage to every attack. Garuda could grant a spell speed increase similar to Serene. Titan could grant a defense bonus. It'll never happen, since SE is forcing every job to be specialized rather than generalized, but it's the only way Summons will be more than just another tool.
Garuda is going to be the main summon for a very long time. Ifrit and Titan are already out of the runnings, so we'll have to see what Heavensward and the level 60 cap have planned for Summoner to see if Garuda is surpassed. -
12-02-2014, 06:32 PMDuelleThe thing is that Contagion is a direct DPS increase to SMN but comes with one specific pet. That's what basically makes Garuda superior to Ifrit. As I've said in the past, Tri-disaster and Contagion should effectively switch places. This way Garuda has some utility (knockback and a AoE bind) while SMN's DPS increase is directly tied to them instead of forcing them to use one specific egi.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemuria
Could be worse. Our summons could be dolphins that appear from the ground while our summoner prances around like an absolutely fabulous man, for one.Quote:
It'll never happen, since SE is forcing every job to be specialized rather than generalized, but it's the only way Summons will be more than just another tool.
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12-02-2014, 08:30 PMHorobi
Why is ifrit better than garuda at clearing trash mobs? I mean, he could be if his AoE wasn't half what garuda's does, and the extra hit from the stun is only relevant on fights which lasts less than 5s or so.
Only real bonus ifrit can provide over garuda, is via the spell speed bonus proc since he technically have 2 chances to proc it per "round", and we all know how spell speed is for smn...
No need to flame me, honest question there. I perhaps missed an update on ifrit which makes him magically aoe for a lot. I just saw a few potencies updates so far which aren't really thrilling.
On topic, I can see levy giving back mana which would help long fights. Would that beat contagion? I'm not sure.
Could also modify ifrit's spike buff, to make it usable on a party target. Could be interesting to try on a tank. Would be better than what he does anyway right now :p -
12-02-2014, 08:57 PMSuggestion
Dang whats all this hate towards Ifrit, he will do the most damage over Garruda any day against single bosses and extremes fight period. Garruda will not beat ifrit in that aspect. What i think is some people just don't want to have to worry about moving ifrit out of harms way if need be. And i have used stun tho very little for an enemy that the tank doesn't see or cant get to with a stun.
Now if you throw in raging strikes, Garruda will out class Ifrit dps by a good margin, but the cooldown is to long and Ifrit will come back out on top in dps for single bossfights.
I only and rarely decide to use Garruda when there is a large amount of adds stacked nicely together with raging strikes, contagion, bane. Boom lots of dps over time. But still the fights will end quicker if you use ifrits Enkindel with rouse and spur. Not mention its an aoe and you can litteraly see the life of your grouped up adds destroyed. And Garrudas enkindle is single target anyway? and its even weaker than ifrits. Garruda has its moments but i rather get better at controlling my pet replacing my dots and just having more to do in fights period.
Now in light of contagion, please give it to summoners. Its silly that we don't have that in our arsenals.
I hope everyone knows that you as the SMN can place all your dots use raging strikes use bane and boom same thing that Garruda does, while ifrit has a field day. Its like people don't want to be bothered with replenishing there dots or something.
I had someone literally screaming at me USE GARRUDA for ultimas bane... He and his lasers are the only target the entire fight,with ifrit you will kill him faster and you will kill the little lasers faster?? I had to tell him to take a hike cause he was zealous about it. -
12-02-2014, 09:41 PMSunako
If garuda would lose contagion, she would lose too much utility and everybody would use ifrit. If they removed mana cost from pet summon we could use both pets like contagion ->swiftcast -> ifrit -> after 1min swiftcast -> garuda -> contagion - > after 1min contagion -> swiftcast -> ifrit...
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12-02-2014, 10:29 PMBigcat9715In some content it's better to use Garuda over Ifrit, because in the boss fights Ifrit would die almost in a instant after X attack. So its better to have Garuda out attacking from a distance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunako
She's from a short animation called Me!Me!Me! by Teddyloid. I advise watching it by yourself before showing others.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZairaRavvu