An idea to make echo better.

3% increased movement speed per Echo stack would be PERFECT.

Let's not make content even more easier.

Isnt echo for those who cant beat it without? Why are so many posting here, who dont need echo because beating it normally?
It doesnt change anything for you if you can beat it normally but then why you are denying some help for those who cant?

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Originally Posted by Ellatrix

It's already plenty valuable, and all encounters with echo can have mechanics ignored already. Have you considered practicing and trying to dodge things, instead of waiting for the game to hold your hand?

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The whole point of Echo is to make the content easier on the players side without actually nerfing the content. Jump off your high horse and stop thinking about yourself. If people can't dodge, then a movement buff would help them.

I really like the idea of the movement buff that is better then the OP. 3%/echo buff to cap at 15%/30% would make a big difference to counter lag issues preventing people from being able to beat content.

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Originally Posted by Dyvid

The whole point of Echo is to make the content easier on the players side without actually nerfing the content.

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I actually thought, that echo is to artificially boost player's gear stats without altering the mechanics of fight. Just like if it was a player with better gear.

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Originally Posted by vp_cmc

I actually thought, that echo is to artificially boost player's gear stats without altering the mechanics of fight. Just like if it was a player with better gear.

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But the problem is all those boost don't really help you on mechanic that simply one shot you, and you cannot get raised afterwards.

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Originally Posted by Kewitt

I really like the idea of the movement buff that is better then the OP. 3%/echo buff to cap at 15%/30% would make a big difference to counter lag issues preventing people from being able to beat content.

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You do realize with higher movement speed you can straight up kite the boss?

The point of echo is to give you a little push to beating the fight without being held back by other reasons besides the mechanics of the fight, Bad dps and being under geared might prove to be barriers for clearing hard encounters, which is why there is echo to make that part smoother. It's not there to help you ignore the boss mechanics the developers spent so much time creating for the enjoyment of their players. :I

By the way, all the HM primals can give upwards 50% echo, and all the EX primals, minus shiva, are mostly done for both their loot and challenge. So again, do we really need Echo to be better?

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Originally Posted by Coatl

The point of echo is to give you a little push to beating the fight without being held back by other reasons besides the mechanics of the fight, Bad dps and being under geared might prove to be barriers for clearing hard encounters, which is why there is echo to make that part smoother. It's not there to help you ignore the boss mechanics the developers spent so much time creating for the enjoyment of their players. :I

By the way, all the HM primals can give upwards 50% echo, and all the EX primals, minus shiva, are mostly done for both their loot and challenge. So again, do we really need Echo to be better?

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No, the point was to give less skilled players the chance to beat end game content without actually nerfing the content. Ignoring a mechanic would simply mean you stand in place because you're over flowing with health and defense which is how it's designed right now. Adding a movement speed buff would still require players to dodge and move out of the way of AoE.

Let's talk about loot though, Primal EX give you what, i95 weapons and some crafting stuff? Coil is i95 / i115 and we are on i120 from expert dungeon drops. If you want to maintain the challenge then beating it the first go round wouldn't give you a buff so that's a moot point.