Lockout Timer for Withdrawals is soo stupid

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Originally Posted by Black_Wing

Which shouldn't be the case, SE designs a penalty system that can easily be abused. The penalty should only be going to the person withdrawing and not the entire party. Or you know.. just drop the whole thing and again just give the in prog fishers what they want and put in an "In Progress Only" option and none of this nonsense will occur. The whole reason FOR this change was due to the fishing anyway, but occasional afkers and folks accidentally hitting decline, or in a group where someone else hits withdraw get punished as well. Clearly a broken system that needs to be fixed. I am not a fisher mind you and get just as frustrated with constant withdraws but I seem to be only one of a few people who want to a solution that doesn't penalize those who are not abusing the queue system.

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Boo Who someone can't do anything cause they work with Griefers.

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Originally Posted by polyphonica

It's a punishment for the whole entity because of the way it affects the other players in the queue. If you're queuing as a full party for a raid, and your party cancels, the other 16 people are impacted by any one person in your party cancelling. Hence, the whole party gets penalized. Even though it may not seem fair to you personally (since you personally didn't withdraw), it's the only fair way to do it from a system point of view (since the group you're in withdrew, impacting the queue).

Most occasional AFKers and people who make mistakes won't hit the three-time limit that results in the 30 minute penalty. It's intended to reinforce that if you're going to queue for something, you should be ready at all times.

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Yes and Thank you SE for this

I'm not sure why people don't understand that an "In Progress Only" checkbox will just make queues WORSE. Anyone actually FOR this checkbox I'm almost positive is a healer or tank main who actively "In Progress" fishes...the only one a checkbox like this benefits IS the "In Progress" fishers. Every DPS who queues for a new instance gets much longer queues thanks to the tanks and healers opting to check "In Progress" for quick tomes. Even if only 10% of tanks/healers opted for that checkbox it would have a pretty hefty effect on queue times.

I queue up as "in-progress" on tank or healer because I want to be the hero who rescues an abandoned group, not because it'll be a faster way to get tomes (although that aspect can be nice.) It's not fair to the 3 people stranded in a dungeon to force them to have to exit, if there's no way for them to be assigned a replacement.

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Originally Posted by Catwho

... I cannot parse this sentence.

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Sum up Pick which u want to work on one or the other not both noob

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Originally Posted by Catwho

I queue up as "in-progress" on tank or healer because I want to be the hero who rescues an abandoned group, not because it'll be a faster way to get tomes (although that aspect can be nice.) It's not fair to the 3 people stranded in a dungeon to force them to have to exit, if there's no way for them to be assigned a replacement.

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I'm not saying remove the "In Progress" box. I"m saying DO NOT add an "In Progress ONLY" checkbox.

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Originally Posted by Lithera

I'm not saying remove the "In Progress" box. I"m saying DO NOT add an "In Progress ONLY" checkbox.

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Never add it is more like it

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Originally Posted by Lithera

I'm not sure why people don't understand that an "In Progress Only" checkbox will just make queues WORSE. Anyone actually FOR this checkbox I'm almost positive is a healer or tank main who actively "In Progress" fishes...the only one a checkbox like this benefits IS the "In Progress" fishers. Every DPS who queues for a new instance gets much longer queues thanks to the tanks and healers opting to check "In Progress" for quick tomes. Even if only 10% of tanks/healers opted for that checkbox it would have a pretty hefty effect on queue times.

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Summed it up perfectly, most dps would never dream of trying to queue strictly for an in progress only, since queue times are bad enough for them as it is. Only benefit this would have would be for those who use to duty fish, anyone who says otherwise is just diluting themselves.

Not that complicated of a system: Ready Check -> Passed? No, Repeat, Yes -> Queue for DF

what is that guys deal?

People fish specifically for 'in progress' duties? Why? What's the benefit?