Can we end this?

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Originally Posted by Onidemon

I think im gonna throw up if i see another "PLZ CLONE FFXI" thread.

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I'm going to throw up if I have to see another "Don't clone FFXI" thread with horrible grammar.
js.

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Originally Posted by Aldwin

Hopefully this isn't too offtopic, but I wanted to add to this not all of us (myself at least) aren't too excited with the casual play factor. At least as far as easy, short or small group oriented play.

Some of my best memories of xi were overcoming hard missions or bosses that took us many tries, deaths, days farming items or gil to buy gear, only to fail over and over again (early cop? lol) until we beat it. While hard content may sound bland to some, the feeling of accomplishment was all the more for having to have worked harder for it. After they nerfed the cop missions, I don't think it was quite as interesting personally.

I hope they add some rather difficult content to xiv.

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The hardcore stuff is coming, just gotta be patient. I'm sure it takes them a lot longer to create/revamp hardcore stuffs than it did for the small raids that we have now. You gotta remember that FFXI was mostly hardcore content, and that casual content wasn't even added until like a couple years ago.

the real problem in ffxiv is the ffxi player, SE made ffxiv for the mases not for ffxi fans that are little, they wanna ffxiv for wow killer.

i want diferent game not wow clone and ffxi clone sincerely

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Originally Posted by odette

the real problem in ffxiv is the ffxi player, SE made ffxiv for the mases not for ffxi fans that are little, they wanna ffxiv for wow killer.

i want diferent game not wow clone and ffxi clone sincerely

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Hahah, no.

The real problem with FFXIV is it's underdeveloped, using a serverside interface that requires quite a lot of Engine and Server tweaks to even fix certain issues and implement certain features and it launched with a lack of content. How are FFXI players the ones at fault? We didn't make this game horrible.

Though if you were to pick up FFXI and pick up FFXIV..which game do you think is in a better condition? XIV may be new but so is the game Rusty Hearts and even that is leaps and bounds beyond FFXIV even with set character choices.

I think everyone can rest assure that sometime soon SE will bring out a FFXI clone. It's not going to be this game but THEY KNOW it'll make them money. It might be their new secret MMO i've been hearing about.

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Originally Posted by Visch

This game needs to be FFXI so it wont be bad

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You know what's funny about your signature? The director of that show (1996-1998), Craig McCraken, is married to Lauren Faust, who is currently the director of the latest My Little Pony series. And the both worked on cartoons such as The Powerpuff Girls and Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends.

On topic...I imagine you'll see more influence from MMOs like WoW than FFXI in the future, but without losing the FFXIV flavor. Basic concepts and ideas are not what makes the game. It's their implementation and execution which defines the game.

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Originally Posted by Mimmo

You're ranting about rants

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You're noting his rant about rants! I am ranting about you noting his rant about rants! Will someone PLEASE think of the CHILDREN?!

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

Hahah, no.

The real problem with FFXIV is it's underdeveloped, using a serverside interface that requires quite a lot of Engine and Server tweaks to even fix certain issues and implement certain features and it launched with a lack of content. How are FFXI players the ones at fault? We didn't make this game horrible.

Though if you were to pick up FFXI and pick up FFXIV..which game do you think is in a better condition? XIV may be new but so is the game Rusty Hearts and even that is leaps and bounds beyond FFXIV even with set character choices.

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<3 Rusty Hearts! My fish in a barrel Angela clone is running around with a cardboard box on her head with a kitty cat face drawn on it!

Kitty Box ^_^

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Originally Posted by Onidemon

I think im gonna throw up if i see another "PLZ CLONE FFXI" thread. You would think that after being ignored for so many months pple would get it but they don't.

So let me put it this way. FFXI is made by SE, it is owned by SE and since the game is currently online and SE has no intention of shutting it down, well it is also generation income for SE.

So with FFXIV being aimed at being the next WOW(targets the masses, casuals and hardcore alike) why would anyone in their right state of mind want to turn FFXIV into a FFXI clone? Not only would it kill FFXI but it would go against FFXIV's goals and turn it into a niche and SE can only hope to get 250k players if they're lucky.

FFXI is available to play so stop asking the devs to turn this into FFXI-2 just because ur too cheap to pay a monthly fee.

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I don't think anyone wants a FFXI clone but they certainly didn't expect FFXIV to be a step back from XI either. Implementing features which go with the final fantasy lore (airships, home points, materia, chocobos) doesn't turn XIV into a clone but more accurately into a final fantasy game.

Also, you need to let go of the WoW killer mentality, it's a totally different fan base.

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Originally Posted by odette

the real problem in ffxiv is the ffxi player, SE made ffxiv for the mases not for ffxi fans that are little, they wanna ffxiv for wow killer.

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And yet it accomplishes neither.

If the problem really is FFXI players, FFXI players would be the only ones avoiding XIV like the plague.