Looking for SCH macros, key layout, and misc advice.

K so just started getting into this SCH thing, and I am enjoying it. The macros you provided are nice, but are main for micro managing your fairy yes?

So far I haven't had to micro too much. In boss battles I'll place her in proximity to tank and DPS and she does well. At times I will tell her to Whispering Dawn or Illuminate, but then she goes right back to what she was doing. So far all seems well.

If I want her to Embrace on a specific target though, just so I know I understand, I would have to have them targetd then click embrace or do I need a <t> macro set up for that. Would select target <st> work, I am not sure if I can handle <mo>.

Thanks in advance for the advice.

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Originally Posted by giantslayer

First of all, thank you for sharing. You posted a lot of great tips. I have a couple of questions on this macro:
1. What is the Stay for?
2. My understanding of wait is that is simply a delay before the next line of the macro is executed, not a pet command. Since there isn't a next line in the macro, I don't see how it is doing anything.

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The stay is to interrupt her if she's already casting embrace. As for the wait, I'm not sure myself. I always thought the wait meant to wait 3 seconds and then consider the macro finished and resume her thing.

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Originally Posted by Synestr

K so just started getting into this SCH thing, and I am enjoying it. The macros you provided are nice, but are main for micro managing your fairy yes?

So far I haven't had to micro too much. In boss battles I'll place her in proximity to tank and DPS and she does well. At times I will tell her to Whispering Dawn or Illuminate, but then she goes right back to what she was doing. So far all seems well.

If I want her to Embrace on a specific target though, just so I know I understand, I would have to have them targetd then click embrace or do I need a <t> macro set up for that. Would select target <st> work, I am not sure if I can handle <mo>.

Thanks in advance for the advice.

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I don't use target macros except for Virus because I'm am very rarely targeting a party member, pretty much always the boss or a mob. I think you can put embrace on a key, select your target (click it) and then press the button. I don't think you need a macro for that. I use a macro because I'm a mouse over player.

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Originally Posted by Hivernica

The stay is to interrupt her if she's already casting embrace. As for the wait, I'm not sure myself. I always thought the wait meant to wait 3 seconds and then consider the macro finished and resume her thing.

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Macros interrupt each other's execution, and don't affect non-macro abilities in any way, so a /wait or <wait> really only does anything within its own macro. It's just telling the game client not to send the next line in the macro for that many seconds. If you use another macro or ability during that 3 seconds, it will still execute, and it won't effect your pet's behavior in any way.

Said another way: There's no way for the macro to know you're telling your pet to wait 3 seconds. The next command (after that wait) could be a character spell, a pet spell, a configuration command, a line of chat, etc. Waits are commands for the game client, not characters or pets.

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Originally Posted by Hivernica

The stay is to interrupt her if she's already casting embrace. As for the wait, I'm not sure myself. I always thought the wait meant to wait 3 seconds and then consider the macro finished and resume her thing.

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I'm going to have to try that. I've tried to do the same thing with Steady, but that is unreliable because it only interrupts if she was on obey or sic. I'll post after I get around to testing.

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Originally Posted by Bixby

Macros interrupt each other's execution, and don't affect non-macro abilities in any way, so a /wait or <wait> really only does anything within its own macro. It's just telling the game client not to send the next line in the macro for that many seconds. If you use another macro or ability during that 3 seconds, it will still execute, and it won't effect your pet's behavior in any way.

Said another way: There's no way for the macro to know you're telling your pet to wait 3 seconds. The next command (after that wait) could be a character spell, a pet spell, a configuration command, a line of chat, etc. Waits are commands for the game client, not characters or pets.

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Thanks! I'm always looking to learn more, and that's a good thing to know.

A nifty little macro that I've used for a long time that I don't see mentioned often is:

/pac "Place"
/pac "Heel"

Usually the game wouldn't allow both actions to queue up but since Place only gives a reticle and doesn't commit an action you can effectively have the benefit of both and save yourself a hotbar slot. Plus I personally find fairy movement to be more fluid with this macro when moving to avoid certain AoE's since pets sometimes feel like they have this slight wind-up before they start moving which ends with them getting hit anyways. I find it less apparent with this macro as heel will kick off the wind-up as you confirm the new placement, but that could be just bias since I've used it for so long.

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Originally Posted by giantslayer

I'm going to have to try that. I've tried to do the same thing with Steady, but that is unreliable because it only interrupts if she was on obey or sic. I'll post after I get around to testing.

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If you want to use steady/ guard to interrupt casts simply add them on the same line like so:

/pac Steady
/pac Guard
/pac ~fairy skill~

With this it'll interrupt embrace with w/e stance isn't active at the time if you want to avoid using Stay/Heel. Just keep in mind this will pop up that annoying error message/ sound so it's up to ya~

Cool. Thanks for the reply. I got it figured out.

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Originally Posted by Hivernica

I'm glad it helped at least one person. I really love the scholar job so it didn't feel like a chore to write all that, but yeah I'm happy it helped ^^

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I came to this thread to try to learn how to be a more effective SCH, because I don't feel like I am doing a very good job at it, atm, and your post was incredibly helpful!

And your English is excellent!

As a 50 SCH who is ok on healing but still learning the small details that make a difference in endgame content, I have the question if there is any way to set a macro to use a skill on the focus target? On ps3i t would be nice to be able to use virus on the boss without having to switch targets from the tank I am trying to heal >.<
That and if there is a macro command to use a skill on pet without targetting them?