CRIT vs DET (on War)

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Originally Posted by Giantbane

And the bonus from wrath stacks does not have any effect on any additional dps provided by stacking crit. On the other hand, the wrath bonus DOES effect how much you get out of DET because extra det means those crits are stronger.

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I'm assuming we're talking about damage when actively tanking since having Defiance up while not getting hit is silly. Crit from wrath stacks is pretty negligible because holding onto 5 stacks is going to be a rare occurrence.

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Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez

I'm assuming we're talking about damage when actively tanking since having Defiance up while not getting hit is silly. Crit from wrath stacks is pretty negligible because holding onto 5 stacks is going to be a rare occurrence.

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He was talking about crit being valuable because wrath already gives us 0-10% crit. I was pointing out that the wrath stack crits do not make wearing CRIT gear any more or less valuable. And since the context of the discussion was CRIT vs. DET, I stated the effect it has on DET, regardless of how minor it may be.

But we're also continually building wrath, so wrath is probably adding 4-5% crit on average, depending on how long you hold your Wrath V stacks (when saving it for a specific move).

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Originally Posted by Giantbane

31 is the exact traditional cap for that ilvl. But the fact that you're getting no stat reduction on the amount of det (or piety for casters) you put on the weapon means it's one of the most attractive stats to put on a novus if you value it.

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To expand a bit on what Giantbane is saying, because of how powerful a secondary stat Det is SE sets Det's cap to ~66% of the other Secondaries and Savage Might materia add fewer points of Det compared to other materia of their Tier. At i110 this is 31 to the "normal" Secondary cap of 44. Novus weapons can have up to 75 secondary stat points infused into them, 1 point per materia infused no matter the materia type being infused. This makes it possible to cap 2 different secondary stats on a Novus weapon as long as one of the stats is Determination. So a 44 Parry/31 Det Bravura Novus would be stronger than a 44 Parry/31 Crit Bravura Novus.

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Originally Posted by ElricHellshadow

that's not very nice or productive. I put up massive numbers by stacking crit on content you have probably never seen.

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You still have no idea how mathematics works.