Other Paladin stealing aggro

SE should really tweak Oaths lil bit tbh, Shield Oath should be lvl30 skill and Sword Oath lvl40. If they do this then Shield Oath could have added effect that removes enmity from comboes, as its not that fun to hold back as an OT when you and your MT have big gear diffirences. Also Oaths being OGCD would allow better minmax durning fights where you are not tanking boss 100% of time,

Somewhat unrelated, but I've only had ONE ST run where the tanks aren't trying to fight for aggro. And it's super annoying, in CT, there were so many tanks that there's nothing to do...and now in ST, there's either one tank that tries to do everything, or tanks that focus on nothing but the 'big' pull for the trash or keeps having aggro fights over the bosses. I have no idea what brings out this behavior, but it is super weird and really annoying. I've always been a passive tank, if someone else wants to do it, go for it. But the amount of aggro fighting I've had to do over bosses is unreal.

This is especially bad on Amon. Where the slimes, the snakes and the Kum-Kum (ugh) can wreck havoc.

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Originally Posted by Riepah

I had a similiarly strange case once, slightly reversed. A different PLD with a Novus weapon constantly tried to steal aggro from me (Atma weapon), and only managed to pull even. He would never do anything besides trying to get aggro from the boss, although he never initiated the fight - and for some reason, despite his superior gear, he couldn't quite get it off of me. He had Shield Oath on and it definitely seemed like he was set on getting aggro, for some reason he just didn't do a very good job at it.

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That sounds so fake honestly lol

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Originally Posted by Synestra

SE should really tweak Oaths lil bit tbh, Shield Oath should be lvl30 skill and Sword Oath lvl40. If they do this then Shield Oath could have added effect that removes enmity from comboes, as its not that fun to hold back as an OT when you and your MT have big gear diffirences. Also Oaths being OGCD would allow better minmax durning fights where you are not tanking boss 100% of time,

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Why would you want your tanking stance to remove the enmity+ bonus from your combos? Not to mention that it can be hard enough to keep aggro in pre-40 dungeons as PLD as it is(against equal/better geared DPS)...

Unless you ment that SWORD OATH should remove the extra enmity generation


But to the topic, with CT on the EU Center it seems to be norm that a tank from B is MT unless otherwise agreed before the fight. If I'm MT and another tank steals aggro, I take it back once and if he does it again I let him keep it. Especially at Bone Dragon...

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Originally Posted by PurplePanther

Somewhat unrelated, but I've only had ONE ST run where the tanks aren't trying to fight for aggro. And it's super annoying, in CT, there were so many tanks that there's nothing to do...and now in ST, there's either one tank that tries to do everything, or tanks that focus on nothing but the 'big' pull for the trash or keeps having aggro fights over the bosses. I have no idea what brings out this behavior, but it is super weird and really annoying. I've always been a passive tank, if someone else wants to do it, go for it. But the amount of aggro fighting I've had to do over bosses is unreal.

This is especially bad on Amon. Where the slimes, the snakes and the Kum-Kum (ugh) can wreck havoc.

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I don't get the "Rawr tank epeen" thing either, seriously. I've had runs where the three tanks are so busy fighting over the "boss," whether it be an actual boss or just a big trash mob, that the other mobs wipe entire parties. It's stupid. I tend go for MT simply because I'm pretty well geared (who doesn't want a well geared tank as MT, right?), but if someone else fights me for it and successfully pulls aggro off me, I back off and go play with some adds. It's not that hard to do. I really don't get why people want to go fight for MT, honestly; if you wanted it, you had the chance to initiate the fight yourself. Fighting for MT long-term only hurts the alliance in the end.

The absolute worst boss for this was Bone Dragon in Labyrinth of the Ancients; you could have tanks fighting over MT AND tanks fighting over add placement. A lot of them act like it's some sort of weird contest to get more skeletons to the ends of the platforms than all of the other tanks. Meanwhile, DPS are beating on the adds while they run around like crazy so they end up dying next to the dragon anyway... >.>

There's less tank epeenery in ST than there was in CT simply by virtue of there being fewer tanks.

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Originally Posted by Kamifubuki-Yoakesetsuri

That sounds so fake honestly lol

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It isn't, though. What reason could I have to make something like that up?