1.18 Bittersweet.

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Originally Posted by DAOWAce

You level 50's realize there's people that aren't level 50, right? You realize some people aren't in linkshells or know ANYBODY in the game, right? You realize people prioritize their lives and get online for quick solo play, right? You realize that some people prefer solo play, and it's viable in many MMORPGs (but not to the level of being able to solo all content, that's stupid, and not what we're talking about), right?

The MP change is too much for solo players, especially those leveling up below level 30.

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That is what the XBOX and PS3 are for.. SOLO PLAY.. not MMO's

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Originally Posted by DAOWAce

You realize people prioritize their lives and get online for quick solo play, right?

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And that's exactly what Guildleves are for.
What beeing Rank 50 has to do with it is beyond me thou.

As your other points. You can play "casual" and still be in a linkshell or do behests or play duo and you can still solo grind stuff. Only less efficient and as said: Solo grinding (not playing) isn't what a MMORPG is about. You can still do it, but it should be obvious that it can't be the part of the game which gets a lot of attention.

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Originally Posted by Wynn

I really don't believe soloing is going to change all that much. Which, by the way, people who are posting about "MMOs mean grouping": 1. No they don't. 2. This game has always been about casual and solo friendly play. It is the game's backbone and as such it will always be a concern whether you like it or not.

And to defend Kensei, he groups a lot so please don't categorize him as a party hating soloer because that could not be further from the truth.

That being said, yes, the cost of the cures are high, but how many times do you honestly need to heal yourself while killing a mob? Two, maybe three times? Personally, I find I'm able to fight multiple leve mobs at once and get away with no cure or 1 cure before they all die. Maybe that's cause I'm an archer, I don't know, but I really think It is gonna be ok guys.

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Hey Wynn, we'll discuss this in more detail with with the guys when we are both playing :)

Console Games = Solo player
MMOs = Group gameplay

It is what the genre is. People should be not surprised to find a party focus in mmos.

More people will return to the game because of GROUP PLAY than will quit because they can't solo.. I can't tell you how many of my FFXI friends who tried 14 quit because they said, "To solo for me".. and who will return because of these types of changes..

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Originally Posted by Jabo

Leves are for soloing.
You get your MP refreshed after every Leve.

+ Second Wind and Bloodbath, which are DoW healing skills got enhanced.
+ enemys got balanced too, so just wait, play and than complain.

people starting to quit now, without even trying how the game feels, is really kind of overdramatic...

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C'mon now, get into the spirit of things!

Being upset that change is inevitable is a MMO player's tradition.

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Originally Posted by DAOWAce

You level 50's realize there's people that aren't level 50, right? You realize some people aren't in linkshells or know ANYBODY in the game, right? You realize people prioritize their lives and get online for quick solo play, right? You realize that some people prefer solo play, and it's viable in many MMORPGs (but not to the level of being able to solo all content, that's stupid, and not what we're talking about), right?

The MP change is too much for solo players, especially those leveling up below level 30.

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sooo you play an MMO ! to play by your self??
your gonna SOLO to lvl 50 ..and do nothing?
I don't get what you're trying to say!
Go play an RPG if you wanna be by your self.

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Originally Posted by Kensei

So we are being forced to group again just like in XI. I got CON and THM to 20 these past couple of days to be able to solo decently and it was for nothing. Did you see that MP cost? Aside from mages I don't think we can solo anymore.

Also I want to say that I feel for THMs. You guys got nerfed to absurd levels. I understand SE is again forcing a healer in PTs and getting CON back into the picture but really this is the classical scenario were Devs go overboard and take a class from OP to below average in a single patch instead of gradually adjusting.

We'll see how this plays out when we get to try this but for now it's a bittersweet feeling.

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you understand nothing.

The Guildleves are for soloing. They specifically stated that dungeons+field battles will be for parties, and guildleves for solo exping from here on out. More options may be added for both in the future, but as things are, thats how it goes.

Also certain quests will be for solo or party exp.

That's why there is a patch/update/maintenance. For fixing the game. Understand this or gtfo.