Looking for advice on ATMAs grind; what do you do?

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

There is no "wrong". The whole quest is pure RNG. You get the Atmas when the game feels like it.

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Well, at least if you don´t wear anything other than your zenit weapon... that would clearly be wrong.

everything else is pure luck,...

Boycott it. If people stop doing it they'll have to keep pushing stuff back.

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Originally Posted by Chickenbacca

Boycott it. If people stop doing it they'll have to keep pushing stuff back.

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The fact that so few people have Atma and Animus weapons already got Square's attention. But based on their reply in the last producer letter, they basically said "We heard your complaints but we feel there's nothing wrong with the system as is currently, but here, have some more grinds for mythology tomes if you got that far."

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

The fact that so few people have Atma and Animus weapons already got Square's attention. But based on their reply in the last producer letter, they basically said "We heard your complaints but we feel there's nothing wrong with the system as is currently, but here, have some more grinds for mythology tomes if you got that far."

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Really hate that. Honestly hate it more than a lot of other things.
I liked the fact that getting your relic weapon took skill, then getting zenith before soldiery took patience, and lots of dungeoning.
But to boast about having ATMA's isn't that great. You either got lucky, or wasted hours upon hours getting it. I'm sadly wasting too many hours doing it.
Can I get my life back? lmfao.

As others have said, the longer sessions are, the more likely it is that one might completely give up. Here's a few things I learned on the way to an Atma weapon.

1. Party up! Yes, it is supremely annoying to see the inevitable "Got it. Thanks for the group!" appear, but I think the advantages outweigh the disadvantages here. You'll know you aren't alone in the struggle. You won't have to do FATEs alone. Instigating fun party chat helps to stave off boredom. Even better is to get some voice chat into the mix. FC's are great for this, if they're willing to keep you company.

2. Get out that chocobo! While you're Level Syncing all over the place, why not get some experience for your stalwart companion? It makes the FATEs slightly easier, and you're actually accomplishing a little of something every time an Atma doesn't drop.

3. Spiritbind! Your gear won't matter an iota if you're level synced. Why not put on some lower tier gear and get some materia out of this whole situation?

4. Don't give up! This one may sound difficult, but the one thing that's absolutely true about Atmas is that the only way to never get them is to not try.

5. Remember to equip a Zenith! Check for that telltale glow every once in a while... just to make sure.

6. Watch for trolls! I've seen Atma groups in the Party Finder for zones that do not have an Atma, such as Northern Thanalan. Be careful and don't join these to grind a bunch of FATEs for absolutely nothing.

^ Agree with all that. Make sure to join a choco-friendly party so that you can get your choco some ranks.

If there isn't one, make your own choco-friendly party. :3

There is practically all said to not just throw the ones away you already got and give up completely xD

I have already gotten 52 of needed 72 Atma (don't hate me, i'm farming 2 hours per weekday and around 6 hours per weekend day, so 22 hours per week since the release of 2.2). As playing for a horizonal progression instead of a peak vertical progression is heavily punished now. Without wanting to raid it's really the only thing left to do after daily duties for me.

I'm getting 5,7 Atma per week, theoretically at least, with a total of 200+ hours (including the time spent at 2.2 release when i was off work/studies) grinding fates while watching TV etc. I took a break after my first Atma of 3 weeks its really only 5 weeks for 40 Atma though.

Anyways my point is:
When i started grinding for my other classes, after getting down from the initial frustration this stupid RNG progression brought, i found the farming theory that's based on your local time. (Google: japanese atma farming theory)

Please: No discussions about that here, you can't prove that it doesn't improve the droprate as well that I can't prove that it does.

If you want to believe in it do, if you don't, don't bash it. It served me well as my personal Mojo and it forces me to change zones on a regular basis so i don't turn crazy staying like 8h+ in one area like on my first set. So it's a win win for me ^o^

tl&dr: my short list:

1.) Don't overdo it
2.) Change areas on a regular basis
3.) get yourself a heal Chocobo stage 4+, you can easily solo any fate boss (except the 30 minute ones), mine is lvl 8 heal and a mix of tank and dps and it serves me very well in free stance most of the time.
4.) Get yourself a comrade in crime, someone who still needs atma, best in voice chat so you don't have to type. Taking steam off verbally about not getting a drop for hours really helps out at times.
5.) The most important one: Keep in mind, you will be done at one point! Freedom! Myth grind pace is all up to you, if you want to do a book per day or just get tomes from duty roulette daily, it is all up to you

Hope that can keep your spirits up, don't give up on it!

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

... they basically said "We heard your complaints but we feel there's nothing wrong with the system as is currently, but here, have some more grinds for mythology tomes if you got that far."

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RNG doesn't feel rewarding. It doesn't feel rewarding for those who are lucky, and it certainly doesn't feel rewarding for those who wasted forever attempting it. Make people earn it by making people do something that requires skill.

As for me, I just came back to the game to find this. ::sigh:: I hoped I would be lucky, but yesterday after 9 hours of pure grinding, I received nothing. What a discouraging thing to come back to.

Lots of options to make it also a grind but still having a fail safe.
Simple solution: 30mins-120mins buff after completing your first FATE, buff odds of getting Atma could go up 1% after each completed FATE without getting one....so you know that even if you're incredibly unlucky you'll get it if you do 100 fates.
Resets to 0 when you change zones or after you get an atma