BARD resource?

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Originally Posted by blowfin

Yeah my bad, I just copy pasta'd it. Heavy shot should be first.



It's been tested and shown that the difference between a macro and doing it manually is pretty much non-existent.



This is why you use the /micon "Bloodletter". So your Bloodletter CD isn't off in some other section of the screen. Losing DPS isn't an issue if you pay attention and hit your BL procs between GCD's.

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I'am sorry to say you are missleading people with your statements. When you macro any skill it is clearly a huge and indeed noticeable dps loss.
What happens when you in fact decide to macro your main skills with your off GCD skills such as "Heavy Shot" with "Bloodletter" and obviously Windbite, venomous and straight shot aswell is that you take away the ability to que your next skill. With the delay the game already has unless you live in JP and play on a JP server, by losing the queuing of a skill which actually happens when you click the next GCD skill you want to do while it is on cooldown. Because of this, you will always have a significant delay compared to someone that can master it without any macros what so ever.
So for all you min-maxers, never during any circumstances do you use a macro for any skill on bard if you are looking for maxing it out, and this is not 1-2 dps we are talking about, more in the 10's to 20's or even more for that matter.

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Originally Posted by Zleepyy

So for all you min-maxers, never during any circumstances do you use a macro for any skill on bard if you are looking for maxing it out, and this is not 1-2 dps we are talking about, more in the 10's to 20's or even more for that matter.

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Macroing BL to Heavy Shot is fine to me. I've tried parsing myself having them macro'd and not macro'd, it falls within the same range. No 10-20 DPS differences.

I don't know about others but I barely have time during SCoB to be looking out for Bloodletter procs. I'm more focused on the fight and doing the mechanics.

If I didn't have the Heavy Shot macro, I would be losing out on more DPS from forgetting to use it than just using the macro and taking the non-queuing hit.

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Originally Posted by Zleepyy

I'am sorry to say you are missleading people with your statements. When you macro any skill it is clearly a huge and indeed noticeable dps loss.

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It is a larger DPS loss to be doing nothing at all (GCD or BL or ME, anything). Most players in this game frankly do not have the muscle memory or confidence starting out to continue mashing BL/ME and ride their GCD while dodging or dealing with mechanics. Tying it to one button (and only one button, so GCD queue is not impaired by anything else) limit the downsides. As I've said, our BRDs use a 3-in-1 and do absolutely fine. Just need to understand that you spam the button intelligently. If GCD is about to come up in .5 seconds, don't spam it quite as hard so BL isn't clipping into the GCD time. It's pretty foolproof.

People like to act like they have the dexterity (puns) to play full manual BRD, but most don't.

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So for all you min-maxers, never during any circumstances do you use a macro for any skill on bard if you are looking for maxing it out, and this is not 1-2 dps we are talking about, more in the 10's to 20's or even more for that matter.

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Nah, like I said, it's been tested and proven to be very little difference, if any. Not just some guy saying "hey my DPS feels the same", but actually parsed over a period of time with real numbers. The testing is in the PvP thread on BG I believe, i'm not about to go and dig it out for something I know I'm correct about though.

Like other people have said, it's more about not being stupid with your CD's and clipping skills. If you can't do that properly with a macro, chances are you're not going to do it properly manually.

The diference is huge. If you are not able to keep track of bl then fine for you but that doesn't mean that you are not gimping your dps output.

So you and every single BRD you play with is an absolute perfect robot who never forgets to ride their GCD, never misses a new BL reset proc, and does this while dealing with mechanics? 100% of the time?

We freely admit this is less (less than you seem to think it is) DPS than full manual. If you play full manual perfectly. Not many do.

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Originally Posted by Zleepyy

this is not 1-2 dps we are talking about, more in the 10's to 20's or even more for that matter.

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Citation needed.

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The diference is huge.

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No it's not, it's been tested. With science. Like I said, the results of the testing are buried in BG somewhere, either in the PvP or the Bard Detail thread. I'm not about to go and waste half an hour of my time tracking the post(s) down for you though.

Ok have fun having mediocre dps. The science you speak about is some random post from last year with low gear and made by someone that din't really give any good info.
The diference is even bigger in the new coil because either you have huge up times like t8, or you have small up times like t9 and you have to do all the damage you can before the boss jumps.

Besides you are trying to tell people with real high end experience that know what they are doing how to play their job when you haven't even finished t6.