ATMA ATMA ATMA

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Originally Posted by Insidious

They haven't said anything because there isn't anything wrong currently. The system is fine, get over it. And if you can't get over it, get good, or get gone. No one will miss you leaving over this because you couldn't get good. This has helped to weed out who's good and who's just a bad.

In short, deal with it or leave.

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You heard it here folks. Get good at RNG and don't send the devs feedback or quit FFXIV.

Welp, there goes a good 90% of the community.

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Originally Posted by Insidious

This most certainly does show who is good and who is bad. A good player will put in the time to farm for the atmas while a bad player will come on here complaining about random being random. Look, either you put in the time for a high quality weapon or you quit and go play hello kitty adventure island as that might be more up your alley. Either way, stop complaining as no one cares and, obviously, the devs do not care and believe it is working as intended. I put in the time and got mine and am putting in the time for the books. And you know what, I'll put the time in again for my next class I want an amta on.

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I must be good at FFXIV then as I have put the time in. Oh, but I don't have any Atmas still. Hmm.

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Originally Posted by Insidious

This most certainly does show who is good and who is bad. A good player will put in the time to farm for the atmas while a bad player will come on here complaining about random being random.

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You do realize that the "time to farm" is different for different people, right? You also realize that you are likely talking to people who have already put in more time than you, right?

What exactly then is your excuse for being rude to people who have put in more time and effort than you did and have nothing to show for it? It certainly isn't that you are in a position to judge their dedication, which at this point has surpassed your own effort spent on this part of the quest.

Are you to presume that the rng determined experience of a player determines their skill? Are you presuming to label someone "bad" that has shown greater dedication than was required of you for the same task? Interesting.

Wow, this is an original and refreshing topic. Critique the system yet offer not alternative.

10/10

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Originally Posted by Insidious

I put in the time and got mine and am putting in the time for the books. And you know what, I'll put the time in again for my next class I want an amta on.

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Yes, your level 41 Warrior has put in the time to get its Atma and is now putting time in for its books. Listen, I put in enough time to do an overall grand total of 1,236 FATE, and I only have 6 Atma. Guess I'm not 'good'.

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Originally Posted by Insidious

This most certainly does show who is good and who is bad. A good player will put in the time to farm for the atmas while a bad player will come on here complaining about random being random. Look, either you put in the time for a high quality weapon or you quit and go play hello kitty adventure island as that might be more up your alley. Either way, stop complaining as no one cares and, obviously, the devs do not care and believe it is working as intended. I put in the time and got mine and am putting in the time for the books. And you know what, I'll put the time in again for my next class I want an amta on.

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When I assumed that you were indicating that "good" players would just farm Twin and LeviEX or just continue running 2nd Coil my issue was with your attitude. But now you're actually conflating luck and skill and it's making my head hurt because there is no way someone can be "good" at luck.

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Originally Posted by Insidious

This most certainly does show who is good and who is bad. A good player will put in the time to farm for the atmas while a bad player will come on here complaining about random being random. Look, either you put in the time for a high quality weapon or you quit and go play hello kitty adventure island as that might be more up your alley. Either way, stop complaining as no one cares and, obviously, the devs do not care and believe it is working as intended. I put in the time and got mine and am putting in the time for the books. And you know what, I'll put the time in again for my next class I want an amta on.

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"Good" and "bad" are subject to opinion. It's all about the perspective. Players of all kinds have, continue to and will farm Atmas. All of that said, some people like it and some don't. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, as are you. Whether I agree with you or not is a different story and I don't really know where I could begin...

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Originally Posted by Nadrojj

Wow, this is an original and refreshing topic. Critique the system yet offer not alternative.

10/10

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I did actually.

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Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz

Change Atmas to something else other than fates or change the requirement to progression instead of RNG, I can't handle both.

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But the main point of this thread is to offer feedback that it is not fun.

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Originally Posted by Eardstapa

It would have been fine if it was 50-100 FATE per Zone, then people would know they are making progress. Versus an abysmal amount for a single FATE... Still would suck being FATE, but at least it would progress.

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This would be a very refreshing and welcome change.

It would have been fine if it was 50-100 FATE per Zone, then people would know they are making progress. Versus an abysmal amount for a single FATE... Still would suck being FATE, but at least it would progress.

Well, you can all rest assured - there was once some game out there somewhere which was much worse. That should make you feel better about this whole thing!

After all - no matter how terrible things get, you should always just take what is given to you and keep quiet... because it can always be worse. Right?

/sarcasm