Revelations from Second Coil of Bahamut

Let's not forget that in the second phase against Deus Darnus in 1.0, Darnus has crystalized wings. S/he had those crystalline wings as s/he did not absorb the full aether from Dalamud. However when battling Deus Darnus in 2nd Coil, s/he has true wings and takes on the form of Bahamut then. I do believe the real Darnus did die after the first phase in 1.0, and the aether from Dalamud filled his deceased body with that aether, having him with those crystalline wings. That is why when Deus Darnus in 1.0 gives his Shakespearean pose of giving up his body, and thus turns to aetheral particles.

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Originally Posted by Naraku_Diabolos

I do believe the real Darnus did die after the first phase in 1.0

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It's tough to say exactly what happened. Darnus seemed to have had one more brief moment of life as himself at the end of the fight, where he looks longingly at Dalamud and reaches out for it as he collapses into aetheric mist.

It's clear that in the second phase he is no longer himself, but I think the point was that all his talk about giving his body and soul over to Dalamud finally manifested in Bahamut taking control over his body. When the 1.0 deus Darnus first appears with the crystal wings, he also starts using different speech patterns. He goes from talking about "Almighty Dalamud's" will to "my" will, from what "Almighty Dalamud" will do to what "I" will do. If I remember correctly, his smacktalk during battle also went from normal text to italics. Likewise, he stopped using lancer abilities and started using magic attacks exclusively. This is clearer in the German client, where Deus Darnus flat out says "I am catharsis incarnate, I am the beginning and the end, all are equal before me, everything becomes nothing in my burning light."

I think he fought half of the fight as his tempered self, then was taken over by Bahamut but still defeated, and then Bahamut relinquished control over him, let him die, and then, when absorbing his aether at the end, created the "botched resurrection" deus Darnus within the Ragnarok's halls (I'm assuming that The Ragnarok was the Allagan name for Dalamud based on the Coil map names, but I could be wrong, there).

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

(I'm assuming that The Ragnarok was the Allagan name for Dalamud based on the Coil map names, but I could be wrong, there).

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Well, having just unlocked the first Binding Coil (don't laugh, I take things slowly! :p), but if I remember the Duty Finder mentions that the Ragnarok is actually a spacecraft hidden within Dalamud. If that is indeed the case, then it means the Allagans were far more advanced than anyone ever thought possible (but then, considering they had the technology to seal a Primal and send it into space, mastery of space travel seems kind of obvious. :p

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

Duty Finder mentions that the Ragnarok is actually a spacecraft hidden within Dalamud

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I keep forgetting they added lore to those; you're right. So we've got an energy station using a primal as a conversion mechanism, spaceships, and bioweapon laboratories...looks like it was a lot more than a prison, it was a full-on colony by the looks of things. And here we were thinking we were just being smartasses quoting Star Wars; That's no moon. It's a space station.

I remember that thread with the link to that Star Wars clip haha that was great

Also you keep it up lore mongers this stuff is just too interesting

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

Well, having just unlocked the first Binding Coil (don't laugh, I take things slowly! :p), but if I remember the Duty Finder mentions that the Ragnarok is actually a spacecraft hidden within Dalamud. If that is indeed the case, then it means the Allagans were far more advanced than anyone ever thought possible (but then, considering they had the technology to seal a Primal and send it into space, mastery of space travel seems kind of obvious. :p

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Specifically, Ragnarok was one of the spaceships in and on Dalamund. If you watch the cinematic with Dalamund again, pay attention to those big blue swords that stick out of it. Or look at the minion.... Anyway, each sword is a spaceship. I suspect Ragnarok is just the one that remains most intact, as its named after FF8's space ship.

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

I keep forgetting they added lore to those; you're right. So we've got an energy station using a primal as a conversion mechanism, spaceships, and bioweapon laboratories...looks like it was a lot more than a prison, it was a full-on colony by the looks of things. And here we were thinking we were just being smartasses quoting Star Wars; That's no moon. It's a space station.

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In a way its almost like the Moon from Final Fantasy IV. Instead of containing Zeromus, we just got a Bahamut.

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Originally Posted by Grayve

Specifically, Ragnarok was one of the spaceships in and on Dalamund. If you watch the cinematic with Dalamund again, pay attention to those big blue swords that stick out of it. Or look at the minion.... Anyway, each sword is a spaceship. I suspect Ragnarok is just the one that remains most intact, as its named after FF8's space ship.

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But with ingame lore. Ragnarok is not the name of a ship, but a class of ship. all the 3 ships are Ragnarok class ships which makes the Binding coil..

I have a sneaky suspicion that the coils actually hold Bahamut in a kind of regenerative stasis. As you see he has regenerated more since the first coil was disabled. Maybe they are draining the aether from him, instead of feeding him, thus the aforementioned "regenerative stasis" idea.

Will Disabling the third allow him, if so, to regenerate to a point that he is capable of direct interaction?

But, in my opinion, if, after disabling the third coil, he just disipates back into the aether. That that would be dissapointingly anticlimatical to the whole story.

Off topic: I wouldn't be surprised if the climax of the BCoB and CT storylines signifies an end to 2.0 and the expansion will arrive thereafter, taking us into new storylines and arcs with 3.0.

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Originally Posted by Catapult

*This is its own can of worms. Odin seems to keep coming back despite a lack of devotees summoning him forth. Chances are Bahamut similarly doesn't abide by those rules either, so the assumptions our friends make may be cataclysmically flawed.

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Off-topic but what if Odin's summoning is actually fighting him? If he were left alone, he would dissipate or something. Yet by challenging, the adventurers are setting up a new cycle, and so on.

It's pretty clear that van Darnus dies in 1.0. Alisiae's (or however the crap her name is spelled) commentary essentially gives way to why Deus Darnus holds the form of a female. Bahamut preferred a handmaiden to a man-slave. There's no real mystery about it. The original host body was that of a garlaen, hence the third eye (Cid has one as well).

As far as to the binding coil itself, either here or in another thread I mentioned the use of the term "binding." The story sees it as a prison, but what's actually happening is Bahamut is being reformed. Hence, binding, as in putting together or "sewing" if you'd like.