Garuda Ex NA/Japanese style

Am I the only one who thinks it's hilarious that DPS tanking Chirada on EX is suddenly "not letting the tanks do their job" when I've never seen a tank actually pick up the green add on HM? On HM it's an expected part of the strategy, and you're just doing your job as a DPS. On EX, though, you're suddenly trying to steal the tank's job. . .

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Originally Posted by Sibyll

One clarification: what are you referring to when you say 2 and 3 stacking?

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The positions of Garuda and the adds. 2 stacks is MT taking Garuda and Suprana and OT taking Chirada, 3 stack is the DPS taking Chirada, OT taking Suprana and MT taking Garuda. Also called 2-way or 3-way.

Also Vodomir I'm curious, what makes you think it's not the DPS job to avoid attacks, considering we have fights where it is all about avoiding attacks (Titan)? With the way WW is designed and the low ilevel requirement, I actually think SE intended for the DPS to take Chirada much like in HM.

Also on the flipside Japanese players are pretty stuck in their ways as well, I went into a game with a 7 man premade last night and we did a 2-way method, and the melee pug was so confused he rage quit and abandoned a free clear. The nightmare mount dropped too lmao.

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Originally Posted by SarcasmMisser

The positions of Garuda and the adds. 2 stacks is MT taking Garuda and Suprana and OT taking Chirada, 3 stack is the DPS taking Chirada, OT taking Suprana and MT taking Garuda. Also called 2-way or 3-way.

Also Vodomir I'm curious, what makes you think it's not the DPS job to avoid attacks, considering we have fights where it is all about avoiding attacks (Titan)? With the way WW is designed and the low ilevel requirement, I actually think SE intended for the DPS to take Chirada much like in HM.

Also on the flipside Japanese players are pretty stuck in their ways as well, I went into a game with a 7 man premade last night and we did a 2-way method, and the melee pug was so confused he rage quit and abandoned a free clear. The nightmare mount dropped too lmao.

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That's what I figured, but thank you for clarifying.

The first time I went into Garuda Ex, the triangle method was the way we did it and it seemed obvious to me given that Garuda HM employed the same strategy and SE has had a strong tendency to design their fights to build on previously learned mechanics. That coupled with the mechanics of Downburst... it just seems like a no brainer. Honestly, you could even argue that the swap mechanic was implemented so that the positions of Garuda and Suparna could be managed during the tornado phase while leaving provoke available for the spiny plume.

As I mentioned before, both Monk and Dragoon are cross classed with Marauder and both classes also have a few class skills that would serve no purpose other than proxy tanking. I simply don't believe that SE would design these classes this way unless they intended them to serve as off tanks in certain content.