one other thing we have to remember is there is a low level hunting log for those. whenever i see someone in their mid 20's come over i try to send them a tell asking if they need the 3 for their logs.
the problem with this is most times it's not bots you are competing against. the problem is you can manipulate which order the mobs spawn and how far apart they are. after farming in the spot for a while i can literally tell you the next mob that will spawn, where it will spawn, and be ready to claim is soon as it spawns.
