Question for End Game Raiding SCH (Those guys with ilvl 90 stuffs lol)

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Originally Posted by Mhaeric

The extra MND as SCH, however, has made healing less stressful. Especially when you consider Adloquium crits multiply the difference even further.

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30 MND increases Adloquium by 38 HP which isn't even 0.4% of an end-game tanks HP. Min maxers will love them, but the healing benefits are miniscule at best. Don't forget that 6 MND difference between Elezen and Miqo'te! That's an extra 8 HP on your Adloquium! I'd start to consider using that Fantasia Potion if I were you..

ahh cool thanks for all the feedback I just didn't want to gimp myself if i didn't grab 30MND

so lets say me and a equally geared SCH are some reason healing a raid he has +30 MND and I got +30 PIE. He would technically heal for .5%~ or 50ish more than me but I would have higher mana regen / +240 mana for spamming more?

Spec 30 MND if you are going for healer. It increases about 40-50 hp per heal but you don't just heal once or twice per run. You heal countless of times.

MND is and always will be the primary stats for all healer.

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Originally Posted by Aruji

so lets say me and a equally geared SCH are some reason healing a raid he has +30 MND and I got +30 PIE. He would technically heal for .5%~ or 50ish more than me but I would have higher mana regen / +240 mana for spamming more?

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That's right. It's a matter of taste.

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Originally Posted by Marcusow86

Spec 30 MND if you are going for healer. It increases about 40-50 hp per heal but you don't just heal once or twice per run. You heal countless of times.

MND is and always will be the primary stats for all healer.

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Your logic is flawed. Healing isn't about how much you do over the course of the fight, it's what you're able to do at each given moment; this isn't a HPS parser contest. Worst case scenario you leave someone 50 HP (0.5-1% MAX) short; best case scenario you overheal by 50 HP less. Let's not pretend this 50 HP is worth anything.

MND is the primary stat for healers, but VIT and PIE scale better.

Putting your stats. to VIT is a bit pointless when you already have a Full i90 on the left side of your equipment.

As far as AoE heal goes 50HP means alot and its almost 100 HP more for things like Medica 2, 20HP more Regen ticks, 30HP more Fairy heals, 15HP more Fairy AoE heals, And when Divine Seal is applied serve more purpose. As a Scholar you shouldn't be running out of MP even when you have to raise 3-4 times per fight, WHM only dips cause they have to raise and Shroud is lacklustre in the MP recovery department.

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Originally Posted by Ashira

Healing isn't about how much you do over the course of the fight, it's what you're able to do at each given moment; this isn't a HPS parser contest. Worst case scenario you leave someone 50 HP (0.5-1% MAX) short; best case scenario you overheal by 50 HP less. Let's not pretend this 50 HP is worth anything.

MND is the primary stat for healers, but VIT and PIE scale better.

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You forget about the galvanize effect and your fairie, since this thread is about SCH end-game. That ~40 HP is actually ~80 HP (on a crit ~180 hp since the shield is doubled) half of which is never going to be over-healing (two-thirds on a crit) unless you're in the habit of over-writing your galvanize. And on top of that your fairie's heals are also bigger and can be cast in the same GCD as your Adloquium, so when you add up the amount of healing your can do in a single GCD the extra you get from that 30 MND is more than you think. It's not a huge amount, but it isn't insignificant either.

I think putting into VIT is good, you staying alive is very important since you can heal more.

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Originally Posted by Ashira

Healing isn't about how much you do over the course of the fight, it's what you're able to do at each given moment; this isn't a HPS parser contest.

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If healing isn't about how much you do over the course of the fight then why do healers constantly healing the tank? Healing in end game isn't just about healing once and be done with it. I hope we are talking about end game, nothing else.

If i have the means to heal 50HP more each heal, my raid have a higher chance to survive than when i cannot heal 50 HP higher.

Spec in VIT were only viable if you do not have the HP to accommodate your current end game content and even if that is the case, one or two melded ACC would have done the job.

PIE as a SCH, really??

I really don't see why healing more and reducing the probability of wipe can be a flawed in logic. WTB education on this.

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Originally Posted by Ashira

Worst case scenario you leave someone 50 HP (0.5-1% MAX) short; best case scenario you overheal by 50 HP less. Let's not pretend this 50 HP is worth anything.

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You mentioned the above statement as if healing will always top someone to full or over heal. If that is the case, you clearly didn't go too end game with healer enough. Try telling your healers in Twintania that they over heal 50 HP more and they should re-spec VIT or PIE. What i am trying to say is, i would rather spec to 'over heal' 50 HP more than to not spec and later have the party wipe due to falling short in healing.

Then again, everyone have their own style of playing right?