Thanks SE. . .

low quality mats. I got someone to produce 2 mosshorn scalemail +1 but my mats were as follow:

Diremite Sinew Cord +3
Soot Black Buffalo leather +2
Peiste Leather +3
Iron plate +2
Iron buckle +2
Coal tar +3
Algoat horn +3
Mossy horn NQ

If you want hq stuff you got to work for it ;)

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Originally Posted by Peregrine

I'd put your HQ+1 rate at about 30% for that quality assuming 4 touchup attempts for a quality of 140. Nothing you can do equip or not do to change that.
Chane of HQ2 is about 3% by my guess.

So 2 NQs is well within expected outcome.

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Today i HQed Jade Hora +1 with 2 toucheups at 78 Quallity... only had 48 Dura when Synth finished.

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Originally Posted by YuriSan

Today i HQed Jade Hora +1 with 2 toucheups at 78 Quallity... only had 48 Dura when Synth finished.

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Well within expected outcome as well. With a N of 1 synth, your odds of HQ'ing a jade hora with 78 quality is about 1 in 8 with 3 or 4 touchups.

So you had a 12.5% chance of HQ'ing at 78 quality, and they had a 70% chance of NQ'ing at 140 quality.

61% chance that you both NQ.
26% chance that they HQ and you NQ, in agreement with your quality.
9% chance that you HQ and they NQ, in spite your all's quality.
4% chance you both HQ.

Your situation had a 9% chance of happening when combined with theirs, and you're just one test. So this is an easily achievable result from a non-random selection of forum posters.

It's just the breaks. Nothing wrong with it, but what we figure it should be like.

That "Expected Outcome" seems really Vast!

Hmm... i read about all these % and such... . . . .
Where do u get all those % and also seem so sure about it really?
What is ur source of info?
Weird.

I can't read this, but you may find the graph useful:

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...entry?e=164505

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Originally Posted by YuriSan

That "Expected Outcome" seems really Vast!

Hmm... i read about all these % and such... . . . .
Where do u get all those % and also seem so sure about it really?
What is ur source of info?
Weird.

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Extensive attempts at HQ'ing gemmed rings on GSM, about 200 rings. I'm a miner. Gems ain't nothin.
Also, making HQ tools and weapons for a very large shell. I've made multiple HQ's of every bsm-made tool and weapon possible, including 3 Aeolian +1s.

I'll try get that into english thanks!

Yeah, I don't know the exact scenario is, but the sample size is definitely good and the numbers jive with what I've seen when grinding wands and getting between 100-200 quality.