We could be, make a new character on Selbina and we will grind the night away :D
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I actually did not know there was this many decent camps to grind in. The game has forced me down the guildleve path and my mind has been led thinking grinding in a party non leves is a bad idea.
What I hate (and call me lazy) is all the runnin about, I used to love the old have a puller and stuff, in XI it was kind of needed so mages could rest where as now you dont but I still like that, running from spot to spot to do not a lot is not an awful lot of fun (fun sentence). But ofc this will have a different perspective come the patch anyday now.
Another thing I think that has ruined the traditional grinding/camp scene is the party system. Even though it works its not used and not what people want and with a system like XI's I think the grind scene could of been a lot more visible. As people would be requested to it, rather than seeking it out (which is tough if you have no motive from my original statement)