The Extreme Mode Axe/Sword

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Originally Posted by Serdapi

The point of BiS is thinking about how to gear for future. I'm not gonna get something with myth if it is just going to become useless later. You can beat T5 with +1 relic, there is no reason to get this new axe if you have the +1 relic. Your time would be better spent practicing T5.

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so as a WAR who knows all too well how hard it is to keep ACC capped with relic (or +1) i would say allowing your tank to get the dual haken which is basically same stats as allagan (but much easier to obtain, no RNG drop and EM should be easier then T5) to allow every other part of gear to go to the optimal "BIS" setup and not be restricted to the "BIS with no acc on relic(+1)" in order to keep ACC where it needs to be is more then enough reason to practice T5 a bit less and clear the EM primals.

plus, from quick chats from my FC members, WAR are not the only ones who will benefit right away from the EM wep until they can get T5 down or get the RNG drop for their jobs.


also why would you spend 900 myth if relic+1 isnt BIS by your statement. if +1 is needed for T5 then you do EM or spend myth on non-BIS items, so which is it?

I am guessing it is a quest to obtain the Axe?
I tohught it would be a drop.

I hope the quest allows the player to pick a weapon. I'd really like WAR GA but will surely be stuck on PLD for extremes.

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Originally Posted by Leiron

I am guessing it is a quest to obtain the Axe?
I tohught it would be a drop.

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Sounds like each EM primal drops an item that you turn in for the weapon. Not sure if that means it'll be a quest, though I personally think it will be since it seems to be SE's track record.

I'm not sure why Allagan is being regarded as BiS, I think its very arguable that in most MT situations our new axe will be BiS.

I believe Allagan axe affords more vitality/wpndmg/strength than the Dual Harken.
The extra 3 vitality, even if small, would be more beneficial given that Parry is an inconsistent effect that only works on Physical.

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Originally Posted by Leiron

I believe Allagan axe affords more vitality/wpndmg/strength than the Dual Harken.
The extra 3 vitality, even if small, would be more beneficial given that Parry is an inconsistent effect that only works on Physical.

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I didn't think of the vitality, derp, you are right. I still think the difference will be miniscule at best in the overall grand scheme, but I can see the argument for Allagan slightly edging out considering the VIT, definitely.

It's in the patch notes and mentioned in the live letter that it's a quest for the new weapons. The EM will drop accessories.

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Originally Posted by KogaDrake

EM drop ilv90 accessories, the new Ultima drops ilv80 accessories

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Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Vactus

It's in the patch notes and mentioned in the live letter that it's a quest for the new weapons. The EM will drop accessories. Each has a slot they drop that are ilvl 80. Plus the chance for drop for furniture.

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EM drop ilv90 accessories, the new Ultima drops ilv80 accessories

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Originally Posted by Traek

I didn't think of the vitality, derp, you are right. I still think the difference will be miniscule at best in the overall grand scheme, but I can see the argument for Allagan slightly edging out considering the VIT, definitely.

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I haven't looked at BiS when using the Dual Hakken but its also entirely possible that we can itemize less ACC on other gear and gain those stats back if not more. Totally theoretical suggestion on my part, just pointing out that Dual Hakken could also change what other items are BiS.

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Originally Posted by Leiron

I believe Allagan axe affords more vitality/wpndmg/strength than the Dual Harken.
The extra 3 vitality, even if small, would be more beneficial given that Parry is an inconsistent effect that only works on Physical.

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It's actually 4 VIT, but still, how can you justify taking a weapon with a few higher stat points 1 higher weapon damage and little mitigation potential over a weapon that's clearly designed as a tanking weapon? It doesn't matter if Parry is random, it's one of the main WAR mitigation stats.