Some thoughts on gil: Being poor, being rich, and everything in between.

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Originally Posted by bob13bob

A lot of BS here. If you've play any game economy, a lot of the gill is made early on in the market volatility. After it stabilizes it's much harder as margins are 20% of what they once were. EG potash used to sell for 80k now is 16k on my server.

Just because you were able to play the economy on easy mode early stages doesn't mean that method is available to players now. You were just grandfathered in. Enjoy it but dont' delude yourself in thinking you outskill the rest of us poor folk because you had a totally different market environment than the rest of us.

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THIS. My bf made 8mil being the first leatherworker on our server and I made 4mil breaking down items he made for me and selling the materia early on.

We're stagnant now.

Anyone who still thinks they are going to release personal housing (other than an instanced inn room) is extremely gullible.

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Originally Posted by Dreadlockrasta

Anyone who still thinks they are going to release personal housing (other than an instanced inn room) is extremely gullible.

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Actually.... (BRB with Link)

EDIT: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1685344

This line in particular, near the bottom.

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Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida

Personal Housing

While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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Yes but what is affordable to Yoshi-P? He also said that the FC Houses were affordable for fcs and we've all seen those prices. Personally I have very little hope of even the small plot with the worst view being under a million.

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Originally Posted by ispano

Actually.... (BRB with Link)

EDIT: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1685344

This line in particular, near the bottom.

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Please look forward to 30 mil for your one bedroom instanced apartment.

Legacy players, your first born.

2.1 has actually increased my profits, I've made around 400k without even trying this week. As the OP said you just have to get out there and find a way to make it.

Non legacy player here, 2mil gil, have been below 1k before.. Accumulating wealth in this game is meaningless, I don't know why people would grind currency in this game. Repairs cost nothing, food buff persists after death, crafting gear is obsolete, there is nothing that people need to spend gil on. So if you mention money woes or brag about having x millions, I think you should rethink your priorities in the game.

Yes you can have 10+ million gil, but...so what? What can you do with that gil? Absolutely nothing meaningful besides min/maxing a few stat point with Rank IV materia (which is largely unnecessary extravagance). If you're into personal housing and virtual interior decorations why don't you just play the Sims or one of the many flash applications on Facebook that allow you to play pretend dollhouse like a grown up?

edit: I don't craft, I only have alchemy at 50 and I spent gil to level it. I don't need anything crafted ever, but even if I did, there are hordes of people on my server I can get to make it HQ, while only tipping them some measly 10-20k gil, which takes about an hour to make from running Duty Roulette/Finder. No point in leveling any other crafting professions since everything is already offered at a decent price on the server. Furthermore I have 100 Allowances just sitting there rotting away.

If you think you need gil, you just need to play the game. Crafting the Relic precursor is the only 'mandatory' expense.

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Originally Posted by bob13bob

And how many of these days will it take before you can buy a house?

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At the current rate I make gil? Assuming I'm starting from 0 (gil I would be putting towards a house, not my current gil), about a month. That's on Hyperion, where they are 20m. That's excluding the fact that the price will drop during that time, and that I'd essentially be buying a FC house by myself. Now, will I buy a house at that price? No way. I'd rather sit on my gil and just wait it out until they are far cheaper.

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Originally Posted by Archona

Accumulating wealth in this game is meaningless, I don't know why people would grind currency in this game. -snip- Yes you can have 10+ million gil, but...so what? What can you do with that gil?

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It's shiny! But really, they could add any number of things to the game to spend gil on at any time (they just did this with housing). Gil might not be used much now, but that can easily change.

I for one would prefer to be the guy with hundreds of millions instead of hundreds of thousands.

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Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch

It's shiny! But really, they could add any number of things to the game to spend gil on at any time (they just did this with housing). Gil might not be used much now, but that can easily change.

I for one would prefer to be the guy with hundreds of millions instead of hundreds of thousands.

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Short of adding a Black Market Auction House a la Mists of Pandaria where you can buy Coil drops or extravagant vanity items, I don't know what they could add that would warrant amassing large amounts of gil. Personal housing will be cheaper than FC housing, both of which are superfluous and have no effect on gameplay whatsoever. FC housing is expensed by the FC, not personally and again, entirely just unnecessary. Again, if I'm gonna invite you over to my virtual house, there are other programs that facilitate this already. But then again I'm probably more rational about these things than most people, who as you mentioned -- "Shiny!!!!"