A bot i've kept track of after reporting it.

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Originally Posted by Khaap

[snip] They are playing the long game. [snip].

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I totally understand and appreciate the concept, except... Well, the quote of the famous British economist John Maynard Keynes comes to mine: 'In the long run, we are all dead.'

The long game makes sense to wipe them all out. But the issue still remains that in the mean time an expectation for low prices at market is solidifying in players minds. The challenge then becomes how do we make things right after that?

I like that SE does player bans/reprimands and outright bans of he gil sellers. It makes me feel like the problem is being seriously handled. I am just surprised of the hyrda like mentality of these people, you cut one head off and two more grow back. It's a hard problem to solve and it really effects the game.

What I have always been confused about is SE knows the websites tied to the rmt. It shouldn't be hard to get the websites shut down since many are tied to phishing and identity theft.

If your website is hosted in a country where some laws don't apply SE can't do anything. But we as players can start DoS attacks on those sites bringing them down ;) Anyways even if SE thinks in long terms Botters did already bring lots of items into the market which wouldn't have been there. And they can't ban people who buy shards on the AH. There needs to he short term reactions. Botters would have a hard time if they would get banned within the first 10 levels of gathering. I only report people where botting is too obvious like mining in the underground. And these botters could be banned instantly. Sure botters doing less obvious things need an long term investigation.

Frankly, if RMTs just botted shards all day long I would almost embrace them. Shards are the bane of most crafters' existence and the bots will at least decrease the price and increase the availability. Farming shards in the quantities they're needed is too soulsucking for regular players. If SE really wants to stop botting they'll stop designing things this way. I'd rather not need to resort to buying shards from RMT on the markets, but I'm sure as hell not going to go out and gather thousands of them myself.

(If anyone thinks I'm exaggerating the issue, 1 stack of La Noscean Toast takes a total of 1427 shards to make.)

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Originally Posted by Khaap

Part of the approach SE do is to monitor the RMT trails. They are playing the long game. They want to wipe out the whole chain in one go, which is what they have done before on this game and previously on FFXI. Wipe out those bots today and those companies create new ones immediately. Watch where the gil goes and track all the accounts it flows through for one month and SE can wipe out the bots, the gil banks and those people that buy the gil as well. All in one go. Take out the gil buyers and the gil sellers will leave because with no customers its a waste of time. In the meantime we all have to put up with the annoyance of it.

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/thread You hit everything on the mark. +100

Nobody mentions that they even have a bot FC?
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...236468/member/

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Originally Posted by Slate

I agree, but where would Square have their priorities, satisfying the bot crowd and getting rid of those or satisfying the gamer add crowd and working 24/7 on new content. oh the humanity

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This post is pretty lolworthy. The people working on new content aren't the people who ban bots. Two totally different teams.

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Originally Posted by ImDingDing

Nobody mentions that they even have a bot FC?
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...236468/member/

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It was mentioned several times on the first page.

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Originally Posted by Vittrae

Now let's see, a quick calculation of things.. gives:

Total experience to lv 49 roughly 7.750.00 xp

Subtract the initial level experience, roughly 150k ending up on about 7.600.000 xp

So, by dividing down a little here, we take 7.300.000 xp, (to account for some small bonuses etc) and divide it by 24, xp per whack

We come by a neat number of somewhere above 300.000 shards collected, in less than a week.

That is.. well.. ALOT in my eyes, and i'd guess extremely lucruative for i'm guessing "GOLDCEO" or another site

But what bugs me, is how it has been able to be active basically 1-50..



SE given up on botters ?

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I love you, I love you because you can do something that i cant.... math <3