A Call For Originality

I dont mind them adding in classes such as the FFXI ones, but I surely do not want them to remove the current ones or future ones (musketeer, Archanist).

Also I really hope they do not do away with physical levels and instead just make it easier to reallocate points and add in templates for different builds, that seems like much less work and everyone wins in that situation.

i like the current namings.

but we all knows how hard being different has hit this company lol,
for once i will side with the fanboys as long as it brings alot of players in.

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Originally Posted by Chardrizard

i like the current namings.

but we all knows how hard being different has hit this company lol,
for once i will side with the fanboys as long as it brings alot of players in.

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Honestly I dont think being different is what caused XIVs lack of success. IMO it was a result of the game being released to early. If this game released with dungeons, raids, companies, Chocos, airships, housing as well as all the skills that classes where supposed to have then I believe this game would have been a huge success and still growing even bigger.

There are so many people out there looking for something new and different. XIV could have been it hell it still can be its just always going to be an uphill battle because of the bad release.

If we had the above then all the other stuff wrong, like class uniqueness, bugs, market wards, etc. would be small issues that could have a lot of Dev focus on them. Right now SE has a ton of stuff on their plate because so little was there on release.

I agree, hence the reason I made the Post "If its not broken, DONT FIX IT" check it out. I am outraged that innovation is being replaced with peoples crying and moaning. PHYSICAL LEVEL AND ARMORY SYSTEM STAYS! We should start a pettition.

*tosses in two cents*

You don't know if something will work until you try.

SE flopped in many areas....but FF14 is a great base for an incredible game.

For the heck of it, I'll rant a bit....

Teleport system
-This greatly speeds up organization for people getting somewhere. Personally, I hated trying to grind or get people together in FFXI and having to wait FOREVER because some yahoo didn't get a telepoint active or there's no WHM wherever they are.
-Personally, I'd like to see a way to SEARCH for people, invite them, then teleport to them if you're in the party. The current search thing is screwy. FFXI's search function was simple. /sea all whm 70-72 Simplicity and perfection.

Quests and side quests
-Kudos for making it easy to find that NPC and area you have to go for the goal. Sure, for some it takes a bit of fun and realism out....but face it, there's a ton of sites out there that list what to do and where to go and this keeps it in-game w/o having to surf for the answers and destinations.
-COUNTERPOINT There's not enough quests to keep players happy (I know it's still kind of in a test phase). The rewards are also kind of.....too little too late. Getting a level 10 robe would have been nice a loooong time ago, not so much now. Maybe throw in bonus EXP/SP if you do the quest at a certain level range....or add the ability to restrict your level to one where the quest would be a challenge. Right now, I'm doing quests just because I can....out of boredom for an item I'll probably NPC after earning. How about adding some Key Item rewards? Like some lucky trinket that's just in your Key Item box, not taking up space, just a little boost in some small way?

Armory System
-It's nice to have my own character with abilities I've earned to create a character that can do whatever I want.
-COUNTERPOINT This system goes WAY too far with this though. There's practically no uniqueness to any class aside from the weapon you're using and some HP/MP stuff. Yay, I can dress my mage up in heavy plate armor....Why? Who knows?
Imo--Make a lot of the abilities classes unlock specific to that class. Keep the Abilites/Traits that you unlock with Guild Points open to all jobs. That way, there's some crossover that you have earned....but the classes keep most of the uniqueness. (And while they're at it....how about adding more things to get with Guild points? Gear for that class that's unique maybe? Or maybe some abilities that don't borderline on the silly and retarded? Overkill in choices would be great even!)

Battle system
-This will be very hard to fix....parts are fine, parts are broken.
-I'd love an auto-attack option. How hard would it be to set that to the 1st eaction action? Choose which you want (stab vs. slash, etc.) and your character will do that on the mob whenever possible (maybe having to hit it once at the start to prevent auto-attacking the wrong mob). Oh, and make it so it doesn't take stamina. If only the special moves used stamina the flow would be more.....dynamic. Sure, it'd take more stamina to do things....but hey, we're adventurers! Slashing a sword is supposed to be easy! Spinning and slashing takes more effort, it makes sense!

-Auto-shield maybe? >.> Just restrict damage a bit perhaps? Kind of like Defender, but more class/wep specific.

-Battle regiments....Great idea, very poorly executed. They're easy to screw up, mistime, and tricky to put into action. The SkillChain system in FFXI was rarely used beyond a few levels when Freeze was awesome and some end-game battles. Sure, it was extra damage....but waiting for your teammates to get TP sometimes was aggravating and wasteful.
With everyone able to use pretty much any WS ability now....it gets complicated and fairly silly.
-Maybe try this;
Instead of focusing on the Abilities people are using, focus more on the timing. Right now, some WSs focus on a particular body part of the enemy to create an effect. Maybe take this a step further and just have everyone with a same-area-hitting-attack go at once?
For example; Someone counts down with a macro, 3,2,1 GO Head Attacks! Three people with Head-Aimed WSs nail the mob at the same time compounding damage and having some sort of effect on the mob. Simple, and easy! (of course, WSs would need to use a LOT more stamina...can't have people just spamming that. With auto-attack, this could be nifty!)

SE, props for trying something new and creative....and even more props to admit that some isn't working. Thanks for listening to us. Let's make this the best MMO out there! :D


You know....I think I'll make this a thread >.> lol

Originality? You saw how that worked on release.

FFXI-2 Please.

The MMORPG market has been rather stagnant since the release of wow, and even before. So yeah, originality is pretty much needed.

I, for one, welcomed and continue to welcome most of the original ideas in the game, especially those related to character flexibility.

People just need to look at new games with an open mind. Final Fantasy XIV is, on many aspects, a perfect example on the lack of ability for many people to do just that.

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Originally Posted by Visch

Originality? You saw how that worked on release.

FFXI-2 Please.

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What didn't work on release is an incomplete and unfinished game. It has very little to do with originality.