Has NM Drops been sucking for you too? XD

I don't even bother incapacitating anymore. The drop rate seems the same, and I've killed them a lot of times.

The only time you need it is for buffalo horns, or mossy horns.

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Originally Posted by Raikki

(Incoming wall of text. I apologize, but I need to get this stuff off my chest.)

There's really no strategy required, and I'm not sure what extra difficulties you guys have doing Gob without a THM tank. Unless you're snubbing all your LS's melee players, THM-tanking shouldn't even be helping on that fight, so the comment you made about it being "relatively" easier with a THM tank confused me. You'd need to cure the melee-range players when they get bomb tossed so your AoE cure would hit the tank anyway (the tiny amount of extra damage the goblins do to the tank with their puny melee attacks is inconsequential). The only problem I can even imagine having on Gob is if you have a Lancer with low VIT getting eaten by triple bomb toss/hail mary. To get around that you could either pull 1 braggadocio away from the group and kill it first, or your LNC could wait for 1 to be killed to engage (boring).

In my experience, even lowmanning, nothing special is required to get the incapacitation. In fact, pre-nerf we used to break EVERY body part in one fight. People like Meowy have much more experience than I do with doing stuff post-nerf, but the couple times I did it for kicks the incap still came easily with only 2 people working on it with plenty of time to spare. Are you using battle regimens?

I understand that THM tanking with overkill healing and ranged-only DPS "works" and maybe you guys are perfectly satisfied with that. I simply would love to see a higher level of play on Fabul and in FF14 in general because I'm worried about Square-Enix designing unchallenging content catered to the kinds of people who have become accustomed to using cheesy tactics as a crutch. I personally believe that if you encounter any difficulties tanking (any encounter, not just Gob) without emulate there's probably something seriously wrong with your tank or (more likely) your healing. Addressing that, rather than falling back on emulate, should be FAR more helpful in the long run and make you better prepared for future content.

Lastly, we did all these NMs before the nerf with fewer than 8 party members, with no silly "Comradery" buff, without using emulate, and we thought they were too easy. This is not a boast, because the difficulty was already too low to feel any pride about it. Most of us either stopped doing it or started doing it with as few people as possible to try to challenge ourselves. We cringe when we see people, for example, wiping to Dodore and then using the claim bug to keep it so they can recover and smash their face at it again until it dies. I hope you understand how incredibly frustrating it is to have watched the level of play go down and down, and that's why I care about this crap.

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HEY HEY HEY HEY NOW!! i'm feeling kinda singled out there XD

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Originally Posted by MeowyWowie

I can't wait for the day they nerf Emulate and Archers and eliminate the claim bug. You don't need any of them to kill anything in this game. Hopefully SE gets their shit in gear and realizes we don't want an easy game. And when they do, I know my shell is ready for it. Question is, is yours?

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Forever waiting then...I am sure there are better uses of your time.

Woooo I was just ranting about the drop. We been breaking his arm, left and right. head. even kick him in the nuts. and yet no drop. Finally got a..... drop. with no breaks or anything. soo yea. we need like TH100 or something.

Maybe I just have no luck. oh well.

We went 2/3 on Aolean Scimitars over the weekend. We tried the THM method the first two times, which got the drop and the two tank method on the 3rd time, and we got no drop. Broke the arm all three times. No sleeves in any of the three.

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

the two tank method

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/facepalm

Why are you using two tanks post-nerf? You should only be using one. Are you using low rank players or something?

Fought the gob this weekend. No tricks (claim bug), 1 gld and some DD. Got sleeves and a sword honestly it just seems luck of the draw when it comes to drops.

Just gotta keep at it Envy.

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

We went 2/3 on Aolean Scimitars over the weekend. We tried the THM method the first two times, which got the drop and the two tank method on the 3rd time, and we got no drop. Broke the arm all three times. No sleeves in any of the three.

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The set up you use doesnt influence drop rate if thats what your trying to imply, such as using a thm tank vs a gla tank

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Originally Posted by Vackashken

Fought the gob this weekend. No tricks (claim bug), 1 gld and some DD. Got sleeves and a sword honestly it just seems luck of the draw when it comes to drops.

Just gotta keep at it Envy.

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Yup, like just about everything in this game 1% intention , 99% luck lol

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Originally Posted by Raikki

/facepalm

Why are you using two tanks post-nerf? You should only be using one. Are you using low rank players or something?

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You gotta admit pre-nerf you needed 4 tanks, 6 THMs, and 5 ARCs or you had no chance, don't blame Molly for using a version of the old-school strategy.