Story Dungeon Incentives & Endgame Grind

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Originally Posted by Farkle

I like the idea it certainly has merit.

It's downfall is putting currency grinding end gamers with entry level players.

Sure they'll get some lovely, helpful, fun skilled players which will makes runs efficient but also enjoyable.

But they will also get the complete opposite. A lot.

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I know that in Rift, you didn't see that many end-gamers actually doing the Random dungeon option, since they didn't receive loot from those low level dungeons that were useful to them. I did the Random dungeon option if I was short on time, just felt like helping a few lowbies, had some achievements I wanted to tag in those dungeons, leveling an alt and wanted to break up the quest grind, ect.

One other thing the Rift LFG reward system has is bonus XP completing the dungeon. If you can add a decent bonus for that reward PLUS first time run reward, it would also help break up the FATE grind to some extent and get more than just endgame folks interested in queuing.

I would LOVE a "Random" tab in duty finder where you get endgame currency for helping other players outside of the endgame "tier" your on. Even if it's only once a day/week deal. SWTOR I know did that. Most hardcore grinders would still stick to grinding the hell out of the top tier content they have access to anyways for drops but it would really help out low level players with more experienced players helping them out. The pro's outweigh the cons big time. It all seems so simple really.

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Originally Posted by SecondNature

This is different from CM now how exactly? The point is we would have Variety in what we choose to run for 40 minutes.

The tome reward could easily be adjusted for lower level content (<35) so that you still get more from doing the longer more challenging dungeons (35>).

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This could work. At least it helps new players levelling up. Acts as a stop gap until more content is added. Adjust exp to be competitive with FATE, like another poster said.

This is a good suggestion, I also wondered what will happen to new players since progression is tied to some group content. It definitely would drive away some customers if they can't progress in the story.

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Originally Posted by Belandomolando

This is a good suggestion, I also wondered what will happen to new players since progression is tied to some group content. It definitely would drive away some customers if they can't progress in the story.

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This is the biggest problem right now. Already, a month in, on new servers (Tonberry as an example where I play) the linkshell's and FC players who are not 50 basicly have to beg us to come complete their story dungeons or wait in 2+ hours queues and often get a tank who just leaves or players who just suck too badly to complete it.

When completing the story is becoming this hard, only a month in. It is going to drive so many new players away when they simply cannot do the story.

We need better incentives for max level players to go back and do the content.

Sorry SE, but the MVP system and 'pets' ect is not going to do it, most of us are not interested in that sort of thing.