Toxic endgame community...

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Originally Posted by DeceptionsWrath

My assumptions are accurate, and Austin kinda proved my point. Calling me trash and a jerk? I spoke my opinion and he insults me for it, way to go legacy. But yes, it's all the new people like me that ruin the game...

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There are 2 types of legcay players.
1 that stick to the game.
The other, came back just for the legacy tag.

Huge difference.

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Originally Posted by Sotek

Can we please stop saying "the endgame community is toxic" when we mean "the Derpy Finder community is toxic"?

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Some of it is Toxic, not all. I know quite a few people that use DF simply because most groups forming need tanks only on our server. As I said, all people have the potential to be Toxic, not everyone is but DF ensures that you interact with the ones that are as you cannot choose who you party with.

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Originally Posted by DeceptionsWrath

My assumptions are accurate, and Austin kinda proved my point. Calling me trash and a jerk? I spoke my opinion and he insults me for it, way to go legacy. But yes, it's all the new people like me that ruin the game...

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What you said was bashing on legacy that's not cool man. Hulk smash

There is absolutely no reason to treat people that respectless as shown in the current endgame. absolutely no reason. one's edducation really failed there.

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Originally Posted by Austin

Don't hate the player... Hate the game. They made it like this, not us

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I agree on this part. Blame the game, not the player.
Why in the hell they put a storyline compulsory quest into a repeatable dungeon AND force you to do it in a group?
There are many way to do it, one is to add an easy mode, solo dungeon for first timer (no reward) then the player can repeat it again in Duty finder.

Some might be feeling generous to wait for others but not everyone has so much "disposable" time. Yeah, if it happen once or twice, i can let it go but every time you have to spend few min on cut screen?

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Originally Posted by Austin

I didn't really mean pissed.. More at the fact that's it's the only dungeon to farm phil tomes the fastest and it's frustrating when people lag behind

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Then those rushers get aggro on everything for spiritbond (and they even toss a childish "sry, first time here!"), wake up asleep adds on bosses and/or bring mobs right close to the cannons.
On a side note, how many time do we save skipping cutscenes (and telling newcomers to skip them)? 2 minutes? I'll check it out at the inn room...

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Originally Posted by IMStarbuck

Some might be feeling generous to wait for others but not everyone has so much "disposable" time. Yeah, if it happen once or twice, i can let it go but every time you have to spend few min on cut screen?

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Not having much time is all the more reason to not try and do Duty finder runs or maybe not even run at all if you don't have a static group to go with.
I'll agree that it is a design flaw to only have a single event to obtain necesarry gear from which also happens to be a compulsary storyline element.
But in the end it is you that feels the need to get things done fast and it is you that decides to stress yourself.
In the end you are not just ruining your own evening, but also that of your fellow players.

I remember what toxic used to mean...

http://eyesareout.files.wordpress.co...venger-toy.jpg

Does anyone else Toxic?

Making a shout party for speed runs is one thing.... Everyone knows before joining what they're in for. Using DF and expecting the rest of your random party to follow the rules you set, pretty much for yourself only when you queued, is what baffles me. DF = expect everything, including cutscenes not being skipped, people having sub-par gear, others not knowing the strat, trolling etc.

Sorry, but if you DF it you HAVE the right to whine about someone slowing down "your" run, just as they have the right to not give a *beep*. Insults and harassment, however, should be reported.