Speed Runs, Getting Carried & Exploits

Square-Enix needs to put a limit on the number of dungeons a player can run a day, or the number of times a dungeon can be run in a day to slow people's progress. What are people going to do…when there's nothing left to do? If you rush like mad to get to Lv50 and get all your gear in a few weeks…what then? What is there left to do? If you've got everything there is to get…now you have nothing. No reason to log in each day, no new goals to meet. Just log in each day and farm or mine to get uber rich and wait till the next expansion hits?

I just think it should take ppl a bit longer (a helluve lot longer) to get to the endgame content. Something like half a year at least, just to get to endgame would be more suitable. Maybe with things you can only do once a week…so getting a full set will take 2-3mo. Give people something they have to work towards. That will add to the life of the game.

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Originally Posted by kage74

Square-Enix needs to put a limit on the number of dungeons a player can run a day, or the number of times a dungeon can be run in a day to slow people's progress. .

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It already takes five months to get full AF +1 for a single class :p

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Originally Posted by Amyas

It already takes five months to get full AF +1 for a single class :p

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38.95 weeks to be precise as I pointed out above. Of course that's including Belt, choker, earrings, bracelet, and rings, all of which are 375 and I doubt can be +1ed.

39/4 = 9.75, so roughly 9 months.

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Originally Posted by Gorlioliolio

I don't understand your post, it's like your saying everyone who has DL has been carried and haven't worked hard to attain the gear.

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There's a difference between working hard, and grinding a comparatively easy dungeon ad nauseum.

The MMO crowd has evolved heavily over the last 10 years. No longer do people wander around aimlessly for dozens of levels due to vague or outright misleading quest information. There are now databases and forums that let players exchange help regarding quests and gearing. The cutting edge crowd you're complaining are very networked and will be ahead of you regardless of how many roadblocks a game could toss in front of them.

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Originally Posted by RyuujinZERO

There's a difference between working hard, and grinding a comparatively easy dungeon ad nauseum.

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Darklight isn't true "End Game" gear though. It's a placeholder for the gear that drops from Crystal Tower and Binding Coil, so it should be fairly easy to get as it is basically a requirement to complete said raids.

As for the OP and people "rushing" to get it, why does it matter to you? The people who rush are either doing it so they can quit before the trial period expires or are doing it so that they can move on to other things (like crafting). It affects you very slightly, if at all.

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Originally Posted by kage74

It makes me very sad to see so many players rush-rushing to endgame and getting fully geared in such a ridiculously short amount of time... Everyday I see people skipping over content, using exploits, buying & selling gil and in general getting carried through the gawme.

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Two very distinct topics, one is about rushing everything, other is the people using exploits and buying & selling gil.

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Originally Posted by kage74

These people are only gonna end up hurting themselves and their raids later on. Sure…they might have the gear, but they don't have the skill. They didn't get where they are through hard work and perseverance. They didn't earn the right to wear that gear.

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People who rush and skip content will have the same skill than you. People who get carried maybe don't. People who buy and sell gil have the same skill, but have more gil than you.

Sometimes people with good gear wiping on AK or Primes are just drunk.

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Originally Posted by Agamemnon

Sometimes people with good gear wiping on AK or Primes are just drunk.

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Idk, I tank AK best when I'm drunk and jamming out, its really weird. Well, it makes it go faster anyways :P

The problem isnt that players are doing it, its that players CAN actually do it. The only ppl that should be max level in the first month are legacy and the super hard core. It should take a month for no lifers, and up to 3 months for casual play imo. No one should be fully fleshed out in the highest lvl gear already. Heck.. I am playing pretty casually, and I got my first ilvl 90 piece yesterday.

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Originally Posted by kage74

Square-Enix needs to put a limit on the number of dungeons a player can run a day, or the number of times a dungeon can be run in a day to slow people's progress. What are people going to do…when there's nothing left to do? If you rush like mad to get to Lv50 and get all your gear in a few weeks…what then? What is there left to do? If you've got everything there is to get…now you have nothing. No reason to log in each day, no new goals to meet. Just log in each day and farm or mine to get uber rich and wait till the next expansion hits?

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That was in this game in some form. It was called Fatigue. It was also in FF14 1.0, which was widely lauded as the worst AAA MMO ever made.

I sure am glad some of the players here aren't devs. MMOs by design are extremely easy games, I always laugh when people bring up "speed leveling" and skill as if there's any correlation between the two.