Spiritbonding, aka slowing the run down for everyone else so you can farm materia

The problem here is with people looking at this the wrong way.

Doing a dungeon has as an objective to farm fast tokens for some players, or get loot.

For some others (spiritbonding), the objective is to level up pieces of equipment to break down.

In both cases both are game objectives, I don't really see the difference. I've many times accepted to run a dungeon just to spiritbond (when I was close to decline because I didn't feel like doing it, or I got the tomes cap, or I don't need stones, or it is not my usual friends group - yes I spiritbond with them too).

I usually change gear on bosses (not that it matters much on performance from what I could see), because a boss seems to give the same spiritbonding exp than a trash mob anyway.

Side note: It is thanks to spiritbonders that you non-spiritbonders get to buy materia, and specially in reduced prices (unless you decide to go do FATEs specially to spiritbond, in this case I'll shut up, but I believe that's not the majority). The more spiritbonding there is, the cheaper the prices.

PS: I assume people posting this won't DARE running a dungeon with a class they have up to the level that is inferiorly geared or performing from any other they may have at the same level, even if they enjoy the playstyle more... that would be heresy!

Another selfish child who thinks the world revolves around him.


No one is forcing you to join groups with people farming materias in them. If you dont like them then dont join them or invite them to your group. Simple as that.

Not everyone is rich and can buy materias from ah some needs to farm them.


and you think white accessories is sub optimal for cm runs? What are you a weakling? White accessories is more than enough for a 25mins cm run.

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Originally Posted by Sylve

Unfortunately, your statement lacked some context.That was very unclear.
And for that i apologize. I shall now edit my post XD

I have no issue with people leaving because they don't like the look of the group they landed with. In some cases, it could well be some very undergeared people trying to weasel their way in.
I just take issue with people declaring that players who Soulbind gear for Materia in dungeons, to make some Gil are somehow being selfish or negatively affecting the group.

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Well, just before i had a tank in full white gear tried to run castrum with us. He had no way of being able to hold agro, without having people hold back on dps. We called him out at the entrance, he then tried to train us with mobs failed and realise agro only activates if you engage mobs.

While we're at it, lets complain at people for queuing as <insert low end DPS Job here>. AKA slowing the run down for everyone else just so you can enjoy <insert low end DPS Job here>.

I could go into this long speech about why this is a absurd thing to be mad about, if it was coil or HM primals you might have an argument. but dungeons? unless you want to be carried most 44+ armor (the primary thing people SB for materia) is more then enough for almost every dungeon you would farm in. so i'll leave you with these simple words TC.

Suck it up.

Says the person who probably farm the dungeon for seals
Why would the dungeon be only run for seals?
if someone want to run it for materia that's not a worst reason than running it for tomes

Op should keep this thread to himself.. Cm is doable in bikini.

Waaaahhhh I have to work as a team for my reward instead of mindlessly running the same dungeon over and over. Waaaaahhhhh
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I don't see a problem with people using spiritbond accessories in story line dungeons. WP you might be able to get away with it as it really isn't that difficult as an endgame dungeon. In AK you should be using at about half your accessories at IL 55 or better. Spiritbonding armour in dungeons I would say is not really a good idea unless you're using IL 55 crafted militia at at least and only in Story dungeons. There is a place and time for everything. Just make sure you know when it's a good time.

I don't care, it's not really going to slow things down because CM is already stupid easy even in crap gear. It does explain some of the odd things I've seen though, like a WHM we had a few days ago with parry accessories and intellect robes. I'm not going to cry if a boss takes an extra minute to die because someone isn't geared properly in a Duty Finder PUG.

I did the DD fate chain in N. Thanalan so SB some items, they go from 0% to ~75% in one go. It seems to me that would be faster than CMs but whatever.

Obviously, the solution here if you don't like seeing things like that, is to form your own group. This is the solution to the vast majority of "player problems". ♥