If the rest of the group is on board with kicking him, I would suggest that everyone stop and wait for the loot window to time out. If the troll wants to try and solo a boss to keep the loot window open, he's welcome to do so - it'd probably be good entertainment to watch him try.Quote:
Originally Posted by Selli
I feel sorry for every subsequent group that gets stuck with this bastard. If he wasn't happy pulling more he could have just said no and that would be fair. Nobody should have to tolerate behaviour that is deliberately aimed at making someone else miserable.
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04-28-2016, 10:47 PMSingularity
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04-28-2016, 11:24 PMNaesakiAshwellThat tank is a prime example of the type of person that shouldn't be involved in mmorpg environments.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miste
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04-28-2016, 11:26 PMMisteYou cannot convey tone through text that's part of my point. What I am saying is people jump the gun to defensiveness too quickly. Like "OMG you asked me a question? WHY ARE YOU ATTACKING MUH PLAYSTYLE" when maybe the only thing asked was "Could we pull a bit more at a time?". There is no tone to convey so instead of freaking out and getting defensive (swearing, trolling) you could ask a question back like "Why?" or say something like "I am not comfortable will pulling more sets at once" and see where it goes from there.Quote:
Originally Posted by MeiUshu
If there is no tone to begin with then people are making up tones in their minds and then attacking the person who typed something to them. Automatically assuming this person is rude when they might not be.
Also people judge people poorly too quickly, just like you just did with Selli; like making assumptions about her without asking her instead. You are saying she was complaining he wasn't doing it, I am pretty sure she wasn't, it was just part of the situation that happened. She was confused because the tank originally agreed to her request and then started to troll. Instead of just saying "No I can't do that". How about you ask her?
You also assume that Selli needs to be 'taught a lesson' that just because she asks for something she might not get it....like I don't even understand why you are saying things like that? Why are you assuming she thought she was immediately going to get what she wanted just because she asked? Is there some sort of rule that you cannot ask for things anymore because if you are you are being immediately entitled? The tank never bothered to type out "No." (he lied and agreed instead). If that did happen the possibilities are two. He says no and Selli says "that's fine!" and run continues with no conflict; or he says no and Selli complains at him for not doing it resulting in conflict. We'll never know which way it could have gone but you are automatically choosing the mean Selli route when you don't even know what would have happened had he just said no.
Sorry but there is just no justification for this kind of rude behavior unless Selli was being antagonistic which I highly doubt. He could have just said "No I can't sorry." and seen where it went from there. Instead he decided to be a jerk for no reason because we never found out which Selli he would have gotten. Nice Selli or mean Selli. Schrödinger's Selli @.@ ...ah my brain hurts now. -
04-29-2016, 12:13 AMNoxiferThat reminds me of an IRL situation... A couple of years back, I took the bus to get to a wedding (I was poor, ok?), and had to change buses to get to my destination. The problem was that it was on a "shopping holiday", meaning the bus was laaaaaate, and I would be too >.< So I asked the bus driver (nicely) if he could consider calling the other bus and ask them to wait; I could hop off on an earlier stop because they crossed paths there to give the other bus more time, too. (Note: This happens now and then here, so it wasn't anything too out of the ordinary.) The bus driver (probably tired and stressed out due to being late, but still...) immediately snapped, "Why the f*** do you think they'd wait for you? How f***ing important do you think you are?" Cuss words and all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miste
A simple No would have been enough, don't you think? Especially when he's working in a service profession. Especially when I'm already dressed up and it's obvious I'm not just 'going shopping' in a tux.
(I did make it in time to the other bus, though. Because that bus was equally late.)
Asking a question doesn't automatically mean you expect a "yeah, sure =D". It means you want to make someone else aware of your wishes and wanting to see if there's at least a compromise somewhere. Unless it's phrased with obvious rudeness and cursing, of course. -
04-29-2016, 01:16 AMbounddreamer
Dang, my response to "can you pull bigger?" is "tell me when to stop?"
Mentor roulette these past couple days has been a breeze. Haukke for Tues, Stone Vigil yesterday, I even got a guildhest Monday. Dps has been great, heals have been in cleric stance at least half the time, we burn through everything in 20 min or so. Every time I sign up for mentor roulette there's an anxiety and an anticipation because it could be anything. But that's what keeps it fun and interesting. -
04-29-2016, 01:43 AMVanilleFang
So I got into Dusk Vigil today for my roulette... Yeah, uh, I only did that place like once before. So I was kind of lost. I actually had no idea where I was at first. Thank god the bosses aren't mechanic heavy.
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04-29-2016, 01:59 AMEdrickthorn
Well here is an interesting one...
I was in Alex 5 with a DF group and on the first battle one of the DPS DC's and we finish the battle and he is still not back. Before the second battle I ask nicely to drop the player that is DC'd. I don't get an answer from the leader and then when I ask again the lead says this,"That is not how parties work."
At this point I am totally confused. I am tank so I walk out of arena so as to show that I am not going to start fight until the person is dropped so that the spot can be filled by another DPS. After like 5 more minutes of waiting, the leader finally votes to dismiss...person is dismissed and not even 2 minutes pass and we get another DPS......(to be continued because of character limit) -
04-29-2016, 01:59 AMEdrickthorn
...(Continued from previous post)
I thought that everything was fine now ...so we continue to 2nd 3rd and last boss. Halfway through the last battle I get kicked from the party with nothing said prior to dismissal(and we were clearing it fine with no issues). Such a shitty thing to do. And all this just because I asked for a replacement DPS for the one that had been dc'd for more than 5 minutes.
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04-29-2016, 02:35 AMFinaSelI don't think you can be kicked in the middle of a fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edrickthorn
What I mean is, a vote kick cannot be initiated once a fight has started. But if the vote was initiated before the fight started it can still pass during the fight.
At least that's my understanding of it. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.
You can also bypass the character limit by editing your original post.
More on topic: I'm sorry to hear that you were kicked for something like that. What a strange reason to kick someone.
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04-29-2016, 02:51 AMEbonwings
A6 (M2) I went in as a PLD and the other PLD went MT. We started well and smooth until Brawler when MT suddenly disconnected during tank buster. I took over and solo tank it, never in my tanking career have I seen 7 stacks debuff on me and I live XD thanks to the awesome healing from both healers. After using Hallowed Ground and all my other cooldowns just to stay alive, I saw another tank buster coming I started laughing so hard thinking "here's come the finishing blow " but dps saved me with his LB in time.XD When we get to next one the MT finally joined up with us and it was a smooth sail.