What does everyone think about those AST buffs?

I agree with Luvbunny

From a longtime Scholar, congratulations Astrologians! I'm happy for you. But you stay in your regen sect or I'mma papercut ya! https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...r-tonberry.gif

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Originally Posted by Luvbunny

I don't get the negative "AST is OP" vibe - AST is now working as intended. A fully functional healer who CAN GIVE YOU BUFFS at a more consistent rate, and CAN heal at similar rate to their counterpart. WHM is your defacto "THE HEALER", SCH is your "DPS HEALER" and AST is your "BUFFS HEALER". Each healer now has their own specialty.

AST heal SHOULD consume far less MP, it is working as intended. SCH is by far far far far far more efficient healer out of the three. WHM is your safety net healer. AST cannot and will not be able to match SCH aetherflow when it comes to MP recovery, but at least AST consume less MP per heal. All of you "negative nancies", please kindly STFU, either go play AST before crying chicken little, or shut your trap. Trying to chime in on the "AST is OP bandwagon" ain't gonna help since as it is now, SCH is still the most OP healer with the best abilities overall, and the best mana recovery, and emergency "oh shit" tool. WHM come second in place, with its unrivaled healing potency and party MIND boost. AST is the third in position, but now AST has a place with decent buffs and healing ability.

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As someone who only leveled a WHM pre HW after AST was announced with the full intent of becoming one when they were released, I can see both sides of this. I haven't seen many SCH's worried. It's WHM's who feel that by buffing the healing potency in such a way, they are starting to step on what niche market WHM has. Which is, as said, only that they overall have more heals. WHM can still pull people out of the abyss very well so I don't think they are going anywhere and I'm very happy they buffed AST as I love the look and wanted to try them. I just wish they had done it with more focus on their cards, which is what makes them unique. Between the three the line between a WHM and a AST is the one that got blurred so I expected to see them concerned the moment I read the notes. I think they might be justified in that though I don't get the 'DOOM IS NEAR' crowd at all. I'll admit I did look at it and feel a bit like I'd been asked to share my lunch while SCH got theirs all to themselves, but I'm not upset per say. Everyone has the right to their opinion.

Ran Expert Rou again after a loooooong time as AST again and I have to say, healing is very comfortable now, just as on my SCH (even though I seem not to be brave enough to be dps-ing that much). Still those 30sec balance aoe buffs are so nice to look at :D.
Though I feel like it's ok that their base healing toolkit is on par now with the others, they should have focused more on the buffs (like making draw more often).

The only bad thing that I think that shouldn't be here is Noct Aspected Benefic being that powerful: Instant cast, lower mp cost, higher migration due to higher shield - it should be on par, not better than Adlo (outside crit but you that's our Cure II, AST has Benefic II for that as well)

I guess we'll just have to wait and see

the astro buffs piss me off, they now do everything better, now wheres the whm & sch buffs???

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Originally Posted by Shikiseki

should be on par, not better than Adlo

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Meh! You're not gonna be in nocturnal sect when paired anyway. Also having many more mana options, effectively we can adlo more than you can afford to noct-asp, so I'd say it comes out pretty even?

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Originally Posted by Verrin

the astro buffs piss me off, they now do everything better, now wheres the whm & sch buffs???

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Since when does SCH need buffs? There's a reason we didn't get anything amazing post-50: it's hard to give us anything without making us too good.

they still need to fix the spire card

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Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

Honestly, it blows my mind, how many people in this thread I have seen whining and complaining about how AST sucked, and how it needed so many changes to make it viable. Now, they've made some great changes, and the same people are bitching and moaning because AST now has something that makes it a great healer - even while WHM and SCH are still as amazing (as they always were) and will never be replaced.

Seriously, grow up. Some of you are seriously acting like the jealous stepsisters in my Final Fantasy Fairytale (see page 17).

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Scholars are in great danger of being replaced since their shields are no longer the strongest; honestly if I had it my way the SCH would have shields, the AST healing overtime, and the White mage would be the hybrid healer that ast is supposed to be but on par with both healers. The Ast/Sch and any new healer would have utility while the white mage would have all the forms of healing while lacking support I think that would be a better vision for the healers.

Example:
White Mage: Shields, Burst, HOT (With Shields/HOT on stances) (Not weaker than their peers since that is basically their niche aka basically what Ast is now)
Scholar: Shields + utility (Fairies)
Astrologian: Healing Overtime + utility (Cards)

I'm not saying that the Astrologian is going to replace the Scholar; however there is a chance due to them having stronger shields.

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Originally Posted by Kumori_Kumo

Since when does SCH need buffs? There's a reason we didn't get anything amazing post-50: it's hard to give us anything without making us too good.

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all they really need is the muzzles taken off their fairys so that a 300 potency heal doesn't act like 200 potency & ill stop my whining

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Originally Posted by Verrin

all they really need is the muzzles taken off their fairys so that a 300 potency heal doesn't act like 200 potency & ill stop my whining

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Then they'd have to lower the potency on Physick to make up for it.