atma drop rates

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Originally Posted by Duuude007

I never said I had an argument inferring that the majority of players support OR protest it. To make such a claim would be both dishonest, and unrealistic.

I am merely glad that you finally came around to admitting that to the rest of us, so we can move on.

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Man, you guys just love to change your story to save face don't you? You should consider becoming a politician.

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Originally Posted by Duuude007

Oh, and thanks again for further deflection tactics.

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Still haven't answered my original question, and then accuse me of deflection. That's funny.

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Originally Posted by Duuude007

Feel free to continue complaining. Frankly its white noise to most supporters, and I couldn't care less. That said, don't be so shocked if supporters decide to fact check lofty claims. Just as you have been attempting to do.

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Apparently you do care, because you continue to post against any person who dislikes atma. Lying again to save face.

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Originally Posted by Duuude007

Anyways, as to your other 'farming atmas has no benefit' claim, for one simple example, several people have previously pointed out how much more alive zones are with people actively darting from fate to fate, which also benefits xp grinders at nearly every level, with more people to down xp- & seal-rich fates, in less time.

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Except I've also seen several others point out that because there are so many people, they can't even get any credit for the FATEs because all the level 50s are clearing them out too fast. So this does not benefit low level players at all, in fact it's actually hindering them.

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Originally Posted by Gamma621

Except I've also seen several others point out that because there are so many people, they can't even get any credit for the FATEs because all the level synced players are clearing them out too fast. So this means players fighting as the same synced level need to adapt to remain competitive, just like everybody else.

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Had to correct that for you.

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Originally Posted by Duuude007

Had to correct that for you.

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Except the players who are completing the fates for the first time are usually noobs just learning the game, therefor they have little idea on HOW to adapt. Seriously Duuude, your personal attacks and the attacks of everyone else are turning legitimate claims into screwed up statistics.

The true FACTS of atma is this: It is completely 100% random, some people have to farm for 2 hours and others have to farm for infinity hours. That is the LAW of randomness. it cannot be measured and it cannot be put into a number no matter how many statistics you gather because there will always be people who never get them the same. Your theories hold no weight and your arguments are getting a bit childish at this point with the bolding and bashing. Let people post their statistics and let people rant. It helps some people. But forcing people to defend themselves then just saying NOPE! im right your wrong does not do any good at all to support your claims of atma being OK the way it is.

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Originally Posted by Axlle10

It is completely 100% random, some people have to farm for 2 hours and others have to farm for infinity hours.

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The concept of RNG is 1/x, and x is never infinity. So there's that.

You seem to like instigating personal attacks, by your own definition. How does that make you feel?

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Originally Posted by Duuude007

Had to correct that for you.

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Hate to beak it to you, but level synced players will always have a stat advantage over normal players. And hey, did you ever think that new players might not even have a mount yet, and can't reach the FATE in time because everyone else moves twice as fast?

Your positive example was that it helps low levels. When low levels say they can't keep up, you basically tell them to "Get good."

Congratulations! You officially don't even know what your own argument is anymore.

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Originally Posted by Gamma621

Hate to beak it to you, but level synced players will always have a stat advantage over normal players. And hey, did you ever think that new players might not even have a mount yet, and can't reach the FATE in time because everyone else moves twice as fast?

Your positive example was that it helps low levels. When low levels say they can't keep up, you basically tell them to "Get good."

Congratulations! You officially don't even know what your own argument is anymore.

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Lowbies can always stick to one half of the map and focus on those that spawn there. Chocobo is not a necessity.

Adaptation is indeed a factor. its how people improve.

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Originally Posted by Duuude007

The concept of RNG is 1/x, and x is never infinity. So there's that.

You seem to like instigating personal attacks, by your own definition. How does that make you feel?

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That sir, is not an attack, that is an observation. You guys are just going around in circles trying to prove whos e-peen is bigger. Ive posted what i have seen from your posts and other people who have defended themselves only to have you attack them again and again which in turn makes them attack you. I pointed you out because on almost all of the atma rates posts, you go in and make it your mission to deny any statistic that is not your own. Several of your posts are borderline harassment and i will not be so hesitant to report you now. Best to watch what you say with your attacks.

There is valid point to almost all of the pros and cons of atma farming.

Don't bother guys, he'll just keep coming up with the same things. He's completely blind to the double standard he puts on everyone who disagrees with him.
Every point you make is an attack against him while actual attacks (mostly attempts to discredit) he makes are "observations".

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Originally Posted by Axlle10

There is valid point to almost all of the pros and cons of atma farming.

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Finally someone with a balanced point of view. In spite of your tone, I can agree with this.

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Originally Posted by Duuude007

Finally someone with a balanced point of view. In spite of your tone, I can agree with this.

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*sigh, a compliment hidden with an attack. didnt know "tone" could be portrayed in text. And ive had this view all along. I know the good and i know the bad. What the worst part is is that there is no middle ground to some of the major pros and cons. those are what im looking at and fighting for to get changed. I like an RNG system. i like the chance and the feeling when i finally got all 12 atma was awesome. But that feeling will most likely never come because some will never get their atma due to RNG only mechanic of atma farming. It is very possible that some people will be stuck on X/12 until they introduce a progressive mechanic. I have been looking to get this instated since it was released. I know my voice wont matter but i still feel like i have to do something for my friends who dont have 100+ hours to farm for a new skin on a wep and cant complete the second coils yet.