Dark Knight

Honestly now, if we had 8 variations of tanks and 2 for dps it wouldn't matter dps would still have more players. Tanking has a lot of responsibility that most players just dont want to deal with. Tanking is also pretty boring for most people, and if you try to make it fun or more DPS like, people seem to feel like it should be able to be considered dps(war) even if its intended as a tank. Adding a tank will just have people who already tank decide which is better or more fun. But it wont cause a big increase if any in the tank population. Adding a DPS could bring more players in or people would just switch mains. But DPS players are highly unlikely to just switch roles. Lack of tanks will always be a problem no matter how many tank jobs there are.

Even though I love DRK, NIN,THF,SAM, if they were tank classes unless they were just absolutely amazingly super fun its very unlikely i'll use them in group content. I even have my paladin at 50. But I have no real plans to main a tank in content, as frankly holding hate and taking damage, while giving my living or dying full reliance to others isn't fun for me.

There are plenty of reasons why having a few tanking classes, lots of DPS, and a few healers is pretty normal across RPGs and MMORPG's. You'd be hard pressed to find tons and tons of people who'd rather get hit by monsters and players rather than being the one doing the hitting.

Even harder pressed to find people who don't mind being yelled at for something they didn't do after a group dies or a duty fails. Blame the tank, Blame the healer. That's why these classes lack players. Its always their fault even when it isn't. They even have to learn more about content and the mechanics they'll deal with over DPS.

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Originally Posted by Bloodclaw

however, if you actually read the OP, this class has almost entirely been a DPS class when playable as the main PC.

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You act like every class except support classes *aren't* DPS classes.

It's like you're trying to troll but being sincere about it.

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Originally Posted by Cynric

Theyy even have to learn more about content and the mechanics they'll deal with over DPS.

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[insert]...and get additional grief when telling dps how to cope with mechanics or what is expected of them.

It's going to be a DPS, GLD30/LNC15, a dps, das it mane.

I personally think Dark Knight will become the first or one of the first advanced jobs that branches off PLD.

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Originally Posted by Exstal

You act like every class except support classes *aren't* DPS classes.

It's like you're trying to troll but being sincere about it.

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Okay, evidence please. I would like to see your support of your statement. I gave my conclusion by using a 3rd party (Wiki), to actively see the roles the class has had in combat by the points made leaning to this subject. If I missed some points supporting the class as a tank fine. If You want to point out a class that was equally or more-so a DPS and now a tank Okay.

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Originally Posted by Bloodclaw

Okay, evidence please.

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http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Job_System


There you go.

As I see it if DRK ere to be a tank it would most likely be some kind of DoT based drain tanker. We already have a heavy damage mit tank job (PLD) and a slower mostly burst heal based tank job (WAR). We still do not have a middle of the road between these two extremes. I also believe that such a build would be set up for a far more aggressive play style not just with Darkness but with abilities that damage/debuff any enemy that hits the DRK (The whole "My pain will be your suffering" thing). We have a number of good MMO examples of this set up like the Shadowknight from EQII.

I see it a being very much a "death of a thousands cuts" type tank where for the most part any individual attack (with the exception of Darkness for those strategic burst moments) is relatively minor but with the DRK piling so many on consecutively that it effectively bullies the enemy to death with a barrage of pain. Thing is this would also make a good DPS set up if SE decided to go that route.

I played a DR in FF 11 as well and it was fun. People did ask /WAR before to go as a tank and I didn't have warrior. Also it's not right to blame SE for making Ninja a tank. It's the players that did this. It's the same thing as well with the Red mage. It's not a main healer. It's a battle mage or rather a spell sword

I just had a thought; is there a possibiity that they might go dual one handed weapon? I don't think there is a president for it.