Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

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Originally Posted by Erudain

Silly question but I never really tried to do it lol...

Can you fall from Titan platform doing an elusive jump?

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No. Unless, of course, you're (for whatever odd reason) still moving your character towards the edge of the platform after the animation is done.

Yikes....that's a pain.....I use it to dodge WotL if I'm the middle and have nowhere to go, but the few times I had to do it I was at the other edge from where I'll end up.

Then a couple times I thought about doing it, but I refrain myself because "hey if I fall and die, that's a douchbagery thing to do"

I think I'll do it now after a clear just for the lulz

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Originally Posted by Lucael_Shikaree

I strongly suggest to every new Dragoon of the community to check the opening post and the first pages of the thread. You can have a lot of insight and useful information. Plus there's some terrific work that some members put in there and is worth to be checked. Like this one about CD priority, the first pages cover this as well.
Anyway what's happening to the Dragoon community in this forum? It used to shine in the old days and now we have people discussing about Chaos Thrust be useful or asking mindless buff on the job. :\

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You take those topics seriously?

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Originally Posted by Silverharp

No. Unless, of course, you're (for whatever odd reason) still moving your character towards the edge of the platform after the animation is done.

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Yes, you can Elusive jump off of the platform in Titan. The platform is large enough to safely use Elusive Jump, but you have to be careful of your positioning. Now Leviathan before the rails are down, I don't know if you can jump overboard.

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Originally Posted by HoolieWho

Yes, you can Elusive jump off of the platform in Titan. The platform is large enough to safely use Elusive Jump, but you have to be careful of your positioning. Now Leviathan before the rails are down, I don't know if you can jump overboard.

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Well, no. It used to be you could Elusive Jump off Titan (did that so much during wipes lol), but they changed it. You now bounce back towards the middle unless you are right on the very edge trying to EJ off.

I'm going to assume this is place to ask a question, cause I'm literally frustrated. I'm i94 (i110 neck, i100 bracelets/earrings/ring and levi weapon) and I'm only doing 300-310 dps in turn 8. I've sat on a dummy and used the rotations/ogcd abilities outlined on the first page and can pull 360+ w/o mercy stroke. Am I just bad? is there something I'm missing about this fight? I'm hit capped and just downright sad.

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Originally Posted by Senmon

I'm going to assume this is place to ask a question, cause I'm literally frustrated. I'm i94 (i110 neck, i100 bracelets/earrings/ring and levi weapon) and I'm only doing 300-310 dps in turn 8. I've sat on a dummy and used the rotations/ogcd abilities outlined on the first page and can pull 360+ w/o mercy stroke. Am I just bad? is there something I'm missing about this fight? I'm hit capped and just downright sad.

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Are you using pots?

I'm sure you're not bad. :) Are you on Homing Missile/brainjack duty and nothing else?
In my group that's all I handle and I pull 389 at i105 using one pot.

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Originally Posted by Senmon

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Nah, probably just the small stuff here and there where you need to pay more attention on like popping cds/pots late. I'm falling behind on dps too in SCoB which is why I came back here seeking advice.

Getting back on track, just to double check again. Assuming everything is ideal, and there is no need to hold back any cds, is the following list below true?

GCDs (in order of priority):

1. Ensure HT buff is up
2. Ensure Dis debuff is up
3. Ensure Chaos & Phle Dot is up
4. Poke the mob with FT combo

o-GCDs:

• Always keep B4B, IR and jump on cd (don't hold back IR for B4B)
• Save PS for jump
• Save LS for FT
• Pop the other 3 jumps as seem fit

I'm normally on mine tower/mines duty

I was popping jump whenever off cd even if PS is not up. Is that bad?
And yes I only LS for FT
There might've been one or two instances where I applied ID combo without HT

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Originally Posted by Senmon

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Forgot about tips for t8, I usually interrupted my rotation and drop Phle and ID on avatar, so I can put Dis on DK as soon as it spawn and is in position. And I usually just pop DD on avatar as soon as it's up rather than saving it for DK.

Are you using legacy camera view on t8? If yes, you might want to consider learning to strafe or target lock on avatar depending on kb+mouse / controller. Those auto attack adds up quite a bit over time.

And if you're casting Final Heaven during the fight, you might want to consider dropping dots on avatar first before casting.

Lastly, make a quick macro with sound effect for TP song to notify your bard if you're not using VoIP. Either that or temporary drop Phle if your bard is busy singing MP song instead.

Good luck raising your DPS~ I'm cheering for you! :)