Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

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Originally Posted by LionFranco

Just did AK normal as 50 roulette with a few FC mates. I went as Pld, FC mates were Bard and Drg, and we got a DF Scholar. So i wait for Scholar to cast protect...and it never comes. So i ask for protect, and the Scholar says he doesnt have it cross classed...

How can any healer not have protect cross classed? Is this just something new that i'm not familiar with?

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...the SCH *does* realize he can change skills mid-dungeon right? He just has to wait on a cooldown?

Please tell me he knew this....

I'm not normally one to post, but this was a strange one.

I'm going for relic, so I que up for Quarn HM. No big deal, I've run it once or twice unsynched, but I can pick up on the synch rules pretty easily. I join a group in progress, enter to find a tank and another Black Mage. Sweet! Just need a healer!

Tank leaves with no word. What?
Other DPS leaves. I'm just plain old confused at this point, hit replenish out of habit.
Summoner joins near instantly, and I feel terrible since its two dps and a wait it seems.
We get a healer, and they say they'll leave if a tank doesn't' show. I don't blame them, the wait might be a bit. After a small amount of time, they leave, and I ask the other dps if they want to bail or keep waiting.
We stick it out, a Dark Knight joins shortly after. A few minutes and a Scholar joins! Awesome!

We're at the second boss, and we melt the place like butter. Wish I could comm everyone who joined and stuck around. :) You guys were fantastic.

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Originally Posted by Quor

...the SCH *does* realize he can change skills mid-dungeon right? He just has to wait on a cooldown?

Please tell me he knew this....

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Maybe the Scholar didn't level up White Mage at all.
I've met some level 60 White Mages who didn't have Virus, Eye for an Eye, or Swiftcast.

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Originally Posted by FinaSel

Maybe the Scholar didn't level up White Mage at all.
I've met some level 60 White Mages who didn't have Virus, Eye for an Eye, or Swiftcast.

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Protect is level 8 though. There's no possible way they couldn't have it. :) And I too have known people who don't have Eye for an Eye. This one guy has been a WHM since 1.0 and refuses to get it because he hates leveling.

Just had an Aery run with a DRK, NIN, SMN, and me as AST.. The tank always uses all defensive buffs except grit.. Losing emnity every now and then and got hit with lots of AoE.. The SMN even changed his pet into titan-egi seeing how tank was a crap.. Every now and then after losing so many emnity, DRK decided to use grit but always removed it midfight just to make mobs scatter to dps and healer again.. This is truly a rare case of a tank who is having emnity issue but decided to drop grit and instead, use all of the defensive buffs available..

Funny thing, the very next run.. I met a WAR who freaks out about mainternance time in an hour++ and decided to pull double pack mobs without a single defensive buffs and losing a few of those mobs.. But i guess this is more normal than the previous..

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Originally Posted by AnaviAnael

Protect is level 8 though. There's no possibly way they couldn't have it. :) And I too have known people who don't have Eye for an Eye. This one guy has been a WHM since 1.0 and refuses to get it because he hates leveling.

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yes there is a way (if he is a lvl 50+) and has his protect set on cross class fifth position and is in a low dungeon then his protect wont work if he doesnt change it from fifht to first or second position(not saying is the case here)



It happened to me with swiftcast, the guy was saying he couldnt use it, spend like 5 mn trying to have him understand WHY he couldnt use it. He was a lvl 60 SCH, yep, in Quarn NM. Finally got to understand after being a bit defensive and FINALLY understood what I was trying to explain to him

So yeah..there is effectively a way wehre people dont know they have the skill available IF they only change it position, depending in what type of dungeon they are compared to their real level.

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Originally Posted by MeiUshu

yes there is a way (if he is a lvl 50+) and has his protect set on cross class fifth position and is in a low dungeon then his protect wont work if he doesnt change it from fifht to first or second position(not saying is the case here)

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Yeah, but the OP mentioned that the Protect-less scholar was in Amdapor Keep - a level 50 dungeon where all your cross class skills are available. I guess the scholar simply never dealt with cross class skills in general, they either rendered them useless or didn't even know that something like this exists.

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Originally Posted by MeiUshu

yes there is a way (if he is a lvl 50+) and has his protect set on cross class fifth position and is in a low dungeon then his protect wont work if he doesnt change it from fifht to first or second position(not saying is the case here)





So yeah..there is effectively a way wehre people dont know they have the skill available IF they only change it position, depending in what type of dungeon they are compared to their real level.

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She was refering to how they have to have the ability unlocked. You have to level WHM past where you unlock that, to unlock SCH. She was responding to the person whom she quoted, not referancing slots that were locked due to sync. Also as above poster stated, it is all in regards to a level 50 dungeon anyway.

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Originally Posted by LionFranco

I went as Pld, i ask for protect, and the Scholar says he doesnt have it cross classed...

How can any healer not have protect cross classed? Is this just something new that i'm not familiar with?

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Counter-question... You're a PLD. You need CNJ 15 to get there, i.e. you also have access to Protect. Why didn't you just cast it? ^^
(Though as a dual-main WAR/SCH, I have to say that there's little reason for a Scholar to not have Protect available in a level 50 dungeon. What's the alternative? Surecast? O.o)

This isn't necessarily a bad story. I got Aetherochemical Research Facility in my Level 60 Roulette last night before maintenance. I know what you're all thinking. *groan* And I'm sure all of us in there thought it, too. It was myself (WHM), a PLD, MNK, and NIN. There was no new person bonus, so I thought to myself, "You know, maybe we can just solider on through this and it won't be so bad—"

*Tank disconnects immediately*

Oh great. Maintenance is in 45 minutes and I doubt there's time to leave reque and get something else in time. So I say to the DPS to let's just give it a go until we can at least kick the tank and get a new one. They agree and so we take off into the dungeon.

Long story short, what happened was one of the most beautiful, tank-less runs ever. I think there was only one or two deaths and a full wipe on the part where all the adds swarm you in the second leg of the dungeon. I wish I remembered their names, because I salute both of those DPS.

Pfft, who needs a tank anyway?