Combat still too slow. We need a shorter Global Cooldown!

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Originally Posted by TheRogueX

Unless you're a PLD. Pretty much all of our non-GCD abilities are reactionary. I wish there were more non-GCD abilities that could be used proactively across all classes, but overall I don't mind the combat system.



This is true. I can't remember any MMO that had so many abilities on a global cool down. Or if there was a GCD, it was short and very specific.

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WOW does, and my warlock has a lot of active spells and most spells are on a GCD, for destruction spec, your GCD can be 1 sec or less, and its not mindless spam, only unskilled players play like taht, skilled players can handle 1 sec or less GCD while picturing what happens ahead. sorry, 2.5 secs is a cop out.

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Originally Posted by nimrod

Cant speak for other jobs, but would love to be on 2.0GCD on my Paladin...

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Paladin propably suffer most as its main combo only have 3 GCD skills and 2 OGCD with rather long cooldowns, Titan HM is good example where you can literally play whole fight with one hand assuming all skills are binded on mouse, or just click as there is plenty of time to do that too. Tbh this is first MMO for me where atleast one of 2 tank classes can be played as an clicker due lack of skills coupled with long GCD while still being rather competitive at sametime, but on the otherhand my Bard and Dragoon feels pretty fine in terms of combat speed.

Also i kinda dont get that "long GCD gives me time to plan my next move" argument, all fights are scripted so that pretty much kills the need of planning when you will know what bosses will do next. Anyway i still like this game even tho it has its flaws here and there, but i would be lying if i said i wouldnt want this to have action-combat with need of aiming and where you need to watch boss emotes to know what its going to do next like it was in Tera(too bad EU servers blows and UI is huge resource hogger so its next to unplayable in its current state).

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Originally Posted by raelgun

WOW does, and my warlock has a lot of active spells and most spells are on a GCD, for destruction spec, your GCD can be 1 sec or less, and its not mindless spam, only unskilled players play like taht, skilled players can handle 1 sec or less GCD while picturing what happens ahead. sorry, 2.5 secs is a cop out.

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I'd have to side with you on your WoW comments. Though.... I think the 2.5 GCD in this game, is in place for the players who use controllers. It would be fairly tough to consistently and effectively manage a 1 sec or lower GCD on a controller. I think it's just the trade-off this game had to make to "fair" across all platforms since they all play together.

In terms of WoW, the GCD in that game was just right for KB/Mouse controls, and the pace of the game itself. One of WoW's overall highlights imo.

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Originally Posted by Derceto

In terms of WoW, the GCD in that game was just right for KB/Mouse controls, and the pace of the game itself. One of WoW's overall highlights imo.

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WoW's combat is clusterfuck. I don't want to see FFXIV combat turned into that... FFXIV is a lot more skill-based because you have to know what abilities to use at what time, healing with the 2.5 second GCD is a lot better than WoW healing. I prefer to challenge myself than to spam mindlessly.

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Originally Posted by Chiramu

WoW's combat is clusterfuck. I don't want to see FFXIV combat turned into that... FFXIV is a lot more skill-based because you have to know what abilities to use at what time, healing with the 2.5 second GCD is a lot better than WoW healing. I prefer to challenge myself than to spam mindlessly.

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I still spam... I just simply get more red error messages in FF 14 than in WOW. Probably only affects paladins, due to the current GCD.

The following is my main rotation scenario:

1(Fast Blade)-22222222222222(Savage Blade)-33333333333333(ROH)-1111111111(Fastblade)

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Originally Posted by Gextiv

I still spam... I just simply get more red error messages in FF 14 than in WOW. Probably only affects paladins, due to the current GCD.

The following is my main rotation scenario:

1(Fast Blade)-22222222222222(Savage Blade)-33333333333333(ROH)-1111111111(Fastblade)

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Play with controller, it fix a bit your problem ^^

This can also help a bit

http://www.duden.de/_media_/full/T/T...1020502822.jpg

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Originally Posted by Chiramu

WoW's combat is clusterfuck. I don't want to see FFXIV combat turned into that... FFXIV is a lot more skill-based because you have to know what abilities to use at what time, healing with the 2.5 second GCD is a lot better than WoW healing. I prefer to challenge myself than to spam mindlessly.

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Spoken like someone that has no idea about wow combat.

eh Wows combat system isn't that great even with its 1.0 gcd most classes have. Only getting worse as they take depth out in this upcoming exp this is coming from a heroic raider in WoW. Oh its not like reducing the gcd would stop people from spamming the button until the spell came out its a habit WoW taught well. only depth wows combat had during mop was snapshotting of skills and that's pretty much gone in WoD
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...rajin/advanced character link so i can PROVE MY WOWNESS so i don't have the arbitrary you've never played wow you don't know what your talking about. Been playing since BC on multiple characters

I think the GCD is fine.
However this is my first MMO so I might feel differently if I were used to the faster pace of other games.

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Originally Posted by Nemmar

Stuff

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I like combat the way it is, thank you. The only thing I want is animation locks to go away (jumps and lb come to my mind)

Kindly do NOT speak for me.