Instead of cutting Ultimate from 5.5 why not cut bozja?

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

It was probably far easier to add a harder version of a raid that was going to be added anyway in an attempt to appease the more hardcore crowd. Time is money.

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The new 48 man is much longer, many more fights, requires essence and duty actions to be taken into consideration, design of new judge set for rewards. The only thing it doesn't have is an exclusive transition that ultimate get.

And yes, if we don't get 3 ultimate next tier, it's considered cut content. This new 48 content made no sense what so ever. It just forced more HC players who focuses mostly on raid to do casual content like Bozja.

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Originally Posted by WoW

Yoshi P did say that they will do two ultimates per expansion back in SB.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._bad_news_for/

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thx for the info. also the link doesn't work. I'm getting Something went wrong when i click it

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Originally Posted by MrJPtheAssassin

I never said ultimates was the same as savage. The way this post read is they should have cut bozja 48 man for ultimate. I don't see the point of making this post with the 48 man already out. The way it was explained said that it either you get your ultimate and delay the expac or get the expac out and push(or in some ppl eyes cut) the ultimate. I personally would have made the same decision in forcing on the expac. Bozja is here and it not going anywhere and there are ppl who was looking forward to the 48 man bc they enjoyed BA.

Also, the OP tried to insult me by calling me a casual and I'm not going to take that. As I said in my post I am doing the ultimates, I do raid and do pretty much 90% to 99% of all content they offer. So to try to insult me as he did I'm going to be vocal about it. There are all types of players in this game and that why I like it. I don't hate hardcore players or casual players. Also the OP doesn't seem like he has any empathy or sympathy for those who are affected by the pandemic. This isn't your normal game development year, we are still in the middle of a pandemic and also coming off one of the worst years the world has seen. So maybe instead of thinking about only himself he should be thankful we got any content at all this past year and we getting a expac in the fall. But hi as I said in my posts you, him and everyone else has the right to voice your complaints and tell into the void of the internet but the toxicity of this post will do only land on deaf ears bc it coming from a OP who sounds like a entitled little brat that is crying and bitching that he didn't get his way.

P.S your English was just fine so no worries

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As I've already said, I have no intension of insulting anyone! I just simply thought that you didn't try the ultimates. I really love the ultimates, so i'm so glad to hear that you are doing them!
The situation really isn't great.. I said lots of things about the ultimates and priorities... But the undeniable fact that really matters is that Covid is screwing us up.;;

P.S Thanks!

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Originally Posted by MPK

The new 48 man is much longer, many more fights, requires essence and duty actions to be taken into consideration, design of new judge set for rewards. The only thing it doesn't have is an exclusive transition that ultimate get.

And yes, if we don't get 3 ultimate next tier, it's considered cut content. This new 48 content made no sense what so ever. It just forced more HC players who focuses mostly on raid to do casual content like Bozja.

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I wish you stop talking like you know how much work goes into designing content for this game and what the dev team during behind closed doors. You, not a designer, shoot you most likely never code anything in your life. You don't know what they doing, what they prioritizing, who working on what, or how long it takes to make stuff for this game. You just sound like a know it all, who actually doesn't know anything about game design or MMO design. Most of Bozja may been done by another team or a mix of ppl. They can't force all the time in the development just for ultimates, if they did the game be even more drier and you most likely never get a expac. So before you shart shooting your mouth how about do a little research and see whats goes into making your beloved ultimates. As many have told you if you not happy move to another game. You seemed to really like what WoW is doing so go there for a while and take a break from FFXIV.

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Originally Posted by MrJPtheAssassin

I wish you stop talking like you know how much work goes into designing content for this game and what the dev team during behind closed doors. You, not a designer, shoot you most likely never code anything in your life. You don't know what they doing, what they prioritizing, who working on what, or how long it takes to make stuff for this game. You just sound like a know it all, who actually doesn't know anything about game design or MMO design. Most of Bozja may been done by another team or a mix of ppl. They can't force all the time in the development just for ultimates, if they did the game be even more drier and you most likely never get a expac. So before you shart shooting your mouth how about do a little research and see whats goes into making your beloved ultimates. As meay have told you if you not happy move to another game. You seemed to really like what WoW is doing so got there for awhile and take a break from FFXIV.

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They probably came here from wow when wow went years without content.


They seem to only want 1 type of content, and go off on rants whenever it doesn't go their way with said content

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

They probably came here from wow when wow went years without content.


They seem to only want 1 type of content, and go off on rants whenever it doesn't go their way with said content

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I think you right. It just makes me mad when ppl talking about what makes content when they have no clue what goes into what makes said content and the amount of stress the team may be under especially during a pandemic. As a software developer, I know first hand the stress of making something under a tight deadline and then something comes up and throws everything out of the loop. It's not fun and something is out of the team's hands when that type of stuff happens. The OP sounds like a brat who had his toy taken away.

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Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

Suggesting they'll suddenly change course, scrap Ultimate entirely and do something else is no different than me claiming they'll scrap the relic or any other established piece of content. It's baseless speculation with no substance, and thus, isn't an argument.

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I don't think they'll remove Ultimate, but it's clear they won't have an Ultimate after every Savage tier. Moving forward to the third expansion of the Ultimate era, the only thing people can expect is to have at least one Ultimate in the next expansion, tentatively planned for the .1 patch. Anything more than that is not a given.

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Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis

And if they are not 3 Ultimates for 6.X? :p

2 expansion, 3 Ultimates instead of 4

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Vahlnir is referring to a specific content that's already been in development: the Dragonsong War Ultimate, which has not been cut, but pushed back to 6.1.

How many Ultimates there will be in the next expansion has not been revealed, and whether they're cut would depend on if they're already planned.

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Originally Posted by MPK

You know, SE should learn a lot from World of Warcraft. At least in that game, Blizzard cares about the raid content

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I think Blizzard cares too much about raid that they overtune them and then have to nerf and fix bugs during world first race or even after.

I think I remember the guild master of the world first guild Limit saying people who clear mythic after a certain point is not even playing the same content as like the top 3 (or whatever ridiculously low number) guilds because of the nerfs/changes that Blizzard makes.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

They probably came here from wow when wow went years without content.


They seem to only want 1 type of content, and go off on rants whenever it doesn't go their way with said content

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The OP is also a TitanMen fanboy, and a known B-rank troll(hell, B-rank movies have better EVERYTHING than the OP)

COVID isn't a good excuse. My company managed to set up a VPN so we can work from home pretty fast. SE is a large multi billion dollar company, it's insulting to think that they're not able to set up a work from home setup like everyone else can.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

As I mentioned on the previous page, these aren't likely two competing assets.
Development of the new Ultimate most likely impacted progress on the upcoming stat squish far more than Delubrum Reginae. In fact I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if entirely different people worked on the fights.

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To clarify:
Ultimate only has the one guy working on it. Each of the previous Ultimates were the same. If that one guy gets busy with something else, then work on the Ultimate just stops.
And it's not like anyone else can just go and pick up the slack. There are only 3 people on the Battle design team that have the skill and know how to make such mechanically tight encounters. All of them are senior members, and would also be working on the expansion.
Even if they were free, the other 2 guys wouldn't just go and "finish off" their colleague's work. That individual would have ideas about the encounter the others may not catch on to, or they add something that original designer disagrees with.