Revelations from Patch 5.4

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Originally Posted by MoofiaBossVal

If Gabranth isn't dealt with in 5.5, Endwalker might feel weird, where the Garlean Empire has been defeated and is rebuilding and the world has been saved from the apocalypse... and then you have Gabranth in the corner still fighting over Dalmasca.

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He may not still be fighting Dalmasca at that point. It could possibly end with him forcing a parley through superior firepower, where he takes control of Dalmasca Inferior only (meaning Lea Monde, Golmore Jungle, Greylic's Bend, and the port city Valnain) while letting them have back Dalmasca Superior (Rabanastre), Bozja, and Nagxia through a treaty/agreement.

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Originally Posted by MoofiaBossVal

If Gabranth isn't dealt with in 5.5, Endwalker might feel weird, where the Garlean Empire has been defeated and is rebuilding and the world has been saved from the apocalypse... and then you have Gabranth in the corner still fighting over Dalmasca.

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He and his legion have already broke off from the Empire, so what happens to Garlemald going forward doesn't really factor into them.

I'm kind of 50/50 on if he'll be dealt with in 5.5 or not. I agree with the sentiment that because he hasn't personally had much presence so far so it would be anticlimactic to kill him off in only the same patch where he first meets the player.

Yeah, Dalmasca being spared the apocalypse so Gabranth can continue to have a presence there wouldn't sit well with me. What I believe likely to happen is that Bozja will win its freedom but Gabranth will solidify his grasp on Dalmasca, and liberating Dalmasca will be a side story of some sort in 6.x. (Trials? Relics again? Idk.)

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

On a somewhat related note, I'm really hoping that circumstances in the Werlyt storyline evolve to make Valens the pilot of the Diamond Weapon because I don't think I'd feel terribly satisfied with him meeting any other kind of end. We've seen enough doom and gloom from this expansion already, so I'm praying at least one of the orphans makes it out of the mess alive.

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The most likely course this is going to take (that I can see) is that Gaius will assault Valens' seat of power at the same time we engage the Diamond Weapon and kill him before he can force Alfonse to use Oversoul. Either that or he'll be just a few seconds too late and kill Valens in revenge. Either way, Valens is gonna get killed by Gaius and Allie will survive, so... yay?

(Please let us pilot G-Warrior for another mecha battle.)

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Originally Posted by MoofiaBossVal

I was thinking that the scientist's conscience was going to get him to sabotage the Oversoul mechanism, so when Valens orders the Diamond Weapon to Oversoul Alfonse... it doesn't work. So Alfonse would be saved. He'd turn Diamond Weapon around on Valens, who would reveal that he had a secret weapon that he hops into and begins piloting, and we'd fight Valens together with Alfonse (while in the G-warrior). Then Diamond Weapon and G-Warrior get damaged, so you have to finish the fight against Valens in the 8-man trial.

But then the 5.5 live letter straight up said we'd be fighting Diamond, so... IDK. So I guess Alfonse oversouls and we blow up Diamond Weapon in the trial while Gaius sneaks around the back in and kills Valens in a cutscene.

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With how confident Alfonse seems to be about their plan succeeding despite Valens' open declaration that he intends to forcibly initiate Oversoul to prevent any treachery, I feel like there has to be someone on the inside who's been working with the orphans to try to ensure things go as planned (Though they obviously won't).

The sadist Valens is, I could see him deciding to personally deal with Gaius if he finds out about the relation the orphans have to him just to make them suffer more (Because they wouldn't really cognizant of the deed once Oversoul kicks in) and also just being even more flustered that he indirectly had been throwing a wrench in his schemes all this time.

The trial taking place at the cloud deck of what's presumably a Garlean aircraft also makes me wonder if perhaps we'll be thinning out their forces using the G-Warrior before we engage the Diamond Weapon in person.

I stopped and sat down to think with the new relic step.

I can understand Ivalace raids, they are making the white auracite from them important to the relic.

Spent longer trying to figure out why the weeping city ones are involved. Yes, yes, I KNOW, it could be arbitrary.

Then I remembered, the warriors of light back on doomed thirteen used white auracite to consume primals.

Not sure if it's going to mean anything, but I like the thematic attachment.

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

His planning so far gives me Vayne Solidor type manipulation flashbacks. Since it's very unlikely that the last part of Bozja will fully deal with him, I expect that Noah, Lyon, Sartauvoir, and Menenius will laugh into the sunset having accomplished some goal while we only deal with Sicinius. A man I have a grudge against for what he did to Dabog.

Speaking of Dabog, I REALLY hope the Resistance picked him up after the Murder Death Kill skirmish. My poor child, I just want him to get a happier end than death on the battlefield...preferably him joining the Garlond Ironworks as a tester, after Nero and Cid minimize that blasted magitek on him to only help with his back.

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I do want to save Dabog too... Hell I want to pull someone from this seemingly endless torrent of bad things happening, anyone. We as the WoL have really come down with a bad case of "Can't Save Anyone" in this story and considering the things we've accomplished at this point it's a bit jarring... There have been plenty of people we've lost in the MSQ but those were pretty much all noble sacrifice affairs. Bozja really needs a silver lining.

I do not want to pull up some old thread so I'll just post it here.

I am doing SB on my alt and I can now understand that this is a prophecy...

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Someone probably already posted this...

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Patch 5.5 name and art. It somehow makes me feel uneasy about WoL (even though we know about WoL being fine in 6.0)...

I think the title is mostly going over how this will be the end of the 7th era with the start of the new Calamity put into motion.

The first thing I noticed was (if it is anything new) how Sir Aymeric is depicted with a new(?) darker armor. It looks Dragoon-ish or Dark Knight-ish. Maybe something will happen to Lucia?