Bunny outfits for men, not a cryptid!

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Originally Posted by Vstarstruck

So why is anything gender locked then?

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Become an interviewer and ask Yoshi-P that yourself (though I think he answered your question in what you didn't bold.

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and on top of that it'll require more development time and we'll have to cut the amount of total gear we can implement.

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So if they did decide to make Edda's gear unisex, it probably wouldn't be out for another year or something (assuming they only have their female staff work on making gear originally meant for a female NPC work on males).

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Originally Posted by Nestama

So if they did decide to make Edda's gear unisex,

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I'd settle for them giving us a male equivalent, doesn't have to be that exact same thing. And if they do go with Edda, PLEASE don't make it a copy-paste of it. That said, if they did that, all the female charas would start complaining it's locked for them and then SE will invest that design time in making it unisex anyway.
Quick, someone tell SE female charas dig masculine gear too, maybe then we'll get some worthwhile male glamour in here.

Question is, what exactly do you want them to make (and is it something that only female staff members will be comfortable with making)? Let's not forget SE has made gear that was technically meant to be male exclusive, but then decided to make them unisex because they figured female characters can rock the look just as well.

Best Man, Thavnairian Bolero, Sailor stuff to name a few.

The 'opposite' to Edda would be Nybeth Obdilord's gear.
https://i.imgur.com/FbWprUl.jpg

I thought the male equivalent for Edda gear was Hildy gear, is that not the case? To my knowledge they are both undyable and cost the same amount of money.

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Originally Posted by Reinha

I thought the male equivalent for Edda gear was Hildy gear, is that not the case? To my knowledge they are both undyable and cost the same amount of money.

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And one is highly requested and I see pieces of it all over the place, the other I only saw on an Inspector Hildibrand NPC wannabe.

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Originally Posted by Nestama

and is it something that only female staff members will be comfortable with making

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No. But the more I think about it the more I see them redesigning Edda into another suit and I can do well enough without it.

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Best Man, Thavnairian Bolero, Sailor stuff to name a few.

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Ugh don't remind me. The first one hurts all the more if only because of the name lmao.

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Originally Posted by Reinha

I thought the male equivalent for Edda gear was Hildy gear, is that not the case? To my knowledge they are both undyable and cost the same amount of money.

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Hildibrands gear is technically unisex (unless you mean the sorry excuse that is the "torn up" gear).

Edit: yeah, looking them up, the Manderville Coatee and Bottoms are unisex and you get them in the final ARR Hildibrand quest (they're just reskins of crafting gear).

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Originally Posted by BillyKaplan

No. But the more I think about it the more I see them redesigning Edda into another suit and I can do well enough without it.

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And if they did make it, I would not be surprised if that turned out to be unisex, or people demanded it to be unisex .-.

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Originally Posted by ElHeggunte

would you expect them to cater to the request of the minority (and if they did that, which request do they go with)?

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No. Like I already said I just expect other players to not be unreasonable towards those of us who are disappointed with this outfit. We voiced our feedback in the appropriate place at the appropriate time and went into enough detail, but it simply wasn't enough this time. That doesn't mean we can't continue to voice our disapproval in hopes that someday we'll be heard (and maybe get a unique and good looking male-only outfit).

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Originally Posted by Vstarstruck

They do not talk to us, they just send us messages once in a while while hoping there is no communication break down on the way?

For "Is Chippendale even a thing in japan" it does not matter, it does not take long for them to look it up or even ask us, what do you mean by x y and z? (though I feel the quote I quoted explained it anyway)

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I agree that there is a lot to improve in the way they communicate with us. They have a lot of events and publicity stunts to keep people excited, but a lot of feedback from Reddit and here seems to vanish in translation or just not make it to the short Q&A sessions. And yeah the cultural disconnect shouldn't be there when they have CMs from all over the world to help them understand things.

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Originally Posted by Nestama

Hildibrands gear is technically unisex (unless you mean the sorry excuse that is the "torn up" gear).

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Yeah I meant the torn up costume on the Mog Station. Not saying that's a fair counterpart to Edda's gear, but that was my impression when I saw it on the Lodestone. Hopefully it's just another NPC outfit and we'll get a better and more creepy PotD set for males.

It's how the world is. A woman in real world can put on just about any clothes and no one will laugh at her for wearing "a mans clothes". A man can put on some of the clothes that are considered woman-only and he'll be mocked to high heaven, even if that piece is a variation on pants which historically came about as male clothing originally.

It is how it is. There is no such thing as male-only clothing in real life, so any sort of male-only clothing in game would feel forced. There is a lot of female-only clothing in real life, so obviously there will be the same in game. The only difference is that people that want to wear it anyway in real life usually won't, because they still care about their opinion enough to not, while in game they wouldn't, so it must be locked out artificially to prevent half of the populace using drag queen glamour for kicks and giggles.

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Originally Posted by kikix12

It's how the world is.

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1. The world was not always like this, you yourself admitted as much with the pants example. Things can change.
2. There are movements all over the world fighting to change how the world is. That's defeatist attitude right there, what you're saying. So yeah, we're not going to move mountains with our little video game revolution. But dammit let me wear more glamours, I'm even willing to pay for them!

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There is a lot of female-only clothing in real life, so obviously there will be the same in game.

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Eddy Izzard was once asked about wearing women's dresses. His reply was - they're not women's dresses, they're my dresses.

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The only difference is that people that want to wear it anyway in real life usually won't, because they still care about their opinion enough to not

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People don't wear what they want to in real life because then they might be beaten, stabbed, kicked out of their houses or murdered. Part of why people want to have those options within the relatively safe environment of a video game where they can block the naysayers without fearing for their lives.

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using drag queen glamour for kicks and giggles.

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Not saying there won't be those people, but there will also be a lot of people who wear it as legitimate gender expression.

SE should charge 50-75 USD for the outfit. Sure, players will complain, but they're so thirsty that they'll pony up the cash anyway. Kind of like furries.