Housing restrictions not fair for individuals.

I got time to see what you posted before you deleted it Arazehl, saying se should not have allowed housing to individuals at some point on the same lvl as FC might be or might not be true BUT in a lot of players opinion it wasnt a mistake aside from limited ressources , if you read what was said before WE WANT OUR OWN medium/large/small, READ previous 27 pages. + thats been an ongoing claim for years actually

It is quite fair for SE to have restricted housing purchase for individuals, but the mistake they made was not restricting relocation as well. There are a lot of servers (the more populated ones) that people went and took large houses for themselves.

I feel SE could have done the housing system 100 times better by simply making it that Large plot purchases are limited to FC's only and small plot purchases are for personal housing. Then FC's would have a cheaper option and individuals would have a larger option

Now what annoys me is smaller servers like the one i am on and Zodiark for example is now suffering under this restriction for longer than we should. Our servers have tons of plots open for purchase, but no one can buy. FC's were able to get their places. We have so many small houses available even in Shirogane.

SE could have done it better, but it's the first time they do this and there is always flaws in the first time.

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Originally Posted by Mythweaver

I feel SE could have done the housing system 100 times better by simply making it that Large plot purchases are limited to FC's only and small plot purchases are for personal housing. Then FC's would have a cheaper option and individuals would have a larger option.

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Except there literally hoards of single player FCs or filled with dummy alts. Just look at what Entropy FC has accomplished over the years with buying dozens of homes with 1 alt in them. Even recently with the 4 players restriction in place, many of those Entropy sub-"free companies" are right back to only 1 alt after purchasing the plot.

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Originally Posted by Mythweaver

I feel SE could have done the housing system 100 times better by simply making it that Large plot purchases are limited to FC's only and small plot purchases are for personal housing. Then FC's would have a cheaper option and individuals would have a larger option

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What??? cheaper options for fc to get larges? & larger option to individuals to get smalls? while i somehow understand what you typed.....somehow,,, that makes no sense & you obviously are not reading what i keep typing f f s , while it might of been a different planning originally for housing in this game, that system is a low blow to this game, wasted potential, everyone should be able to own the size of the house they can afford, according to the amount of efforts spent upon it, say you wanted a mansion for youself while everyone could possibly own one, if the system was done properly, then you could have a lot of space for yourself to invite your friend or do w/e you feel like doing in a large Mythweaver (I/WE dont care about the original planning, its a gross concept & system imo"_)

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Originally Posted by Mythweaver

I feel SE could have done the housing system 100 times better by simply making it that Large plot purchases are limited to FC's only and small plot purchases are for personal housing. Then FC's would have a cheaper option and individuals would have a larger option

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You know what the difference between certain 4man FCs and myself owning a medium is? I can't make my alts tenants in my house or give them individual rooms.

They should have made reallocation only available for same size and rank houses.
You have a small rank 5 house? You can only reallocate to a small rank 5 plot (with the possibility to get lower rank plot indeed).

They should have made FC houses only for FC that has been created for at least one month and with at least four members who were in the FC for at least one month.

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Originally Posted by Sesera

They should have made reallocation only available for same size and rank houses.
You have a small rank 5 house? You can only reallocate to a small rank 5 plot (with the possibility to get lower rank plot indeed).

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Why would anyone relocate to the same house they currently have, or even worse a lesser house? That would defeat the purpose.

Honestly i would prefer it more when they finaly implement larger appartments and giving you the option to owning more than one. Sure houses are nice but once you take a break for 2 months or longer from this game its gone. I like this game but im not the kind of player who can play the same Game/MMO over a whole year, thats why i often take breaks after 2 or 3 months and enjoy something else. As mutch i would like to have a house, with the demolish feature in this game it makes simply no sense for players like me to have one.

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Originally Posted by Cinno

Look, bottom line is, free companies actually impact gameplay, not just of the owner but of all the members. Having a house for a free company means that all of the members get access to many many mechanics that otherwise they wouldnt be able to use.
You not having access to it means you don't get to play house.
Enjoyment of multiple people by buying one house and giving their FC access to the things they need to grow > your singular enjoyment you would get from decorating one. :P

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I think I need to point this out, but the only thing that requires an FC house for is the Airship missions and the few recipes locked to the FC workshop (which are mostly housing or airship related anyway). literally everything else is available even to an FC without a house or is a function of owning the house (i.e gardening) so tell me again why an FC should have ABSOLUTE priority over an individual?

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Originally Posted by k99

You aren't the first person to snap back with something about real life comparisons. I do not really appreciate you putting words in my mouth (the nuance of in-game content vs. actual real marriage counselling).

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I didn't snap.

I didn't put words in your mouth.

You did make real life comparisons since marriage counseling is a real life thing that people use to tackle serious real life issues in marriages. The mocking idea that we have to add a marriage counseling feature in-game just because two people with two separate accounts want their own houses...it is kinda silly, sorry.

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Originally Posted by k99

It still holds that if every married couple in-game had to get a house for themselves it would effectively halve the number of available homes, causing much more shortage of available plots.

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Can I ask you to clarify what point you were trying to make with this statement? Each person is a paying customer with a separate account. I don't recall anywhere where SE says that if you are married IRL, GF/BF irl, or married in-game that means that only one of you should own a house and have to share with the other.

So yes, more player accounts buying houses creates more shortage, but what does that have to do with married couples?

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Originally Posted by k99

But I think your response is a perfect reflection of the way people get unnecessarily vicious over, as you noted, a game.

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I wasn't being vicious (the connotation alone on this word makes this accusation ridiculous). Not sure where you got that from? My post was completely civil so if you can't handle a response that disagrees with you without feeling personally attacked then I'm not sure what to do about that?

I was making a point about not treating couples as a single unit and the fact that they have just as much right to own separate houses if they want to.

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Originally Posted by k99

Do you guys even read these posts? Or do you just jump the minute someone's response does not share your view or sympathize with you in general?

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This seems like some projecting.

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Originally Posted by k99

Because I am having a trying time identifying any mention, intent, or desire on my part for sanctions, punishments, actions or restrictions on players for being married or otherwise in my unedited posts. If you could be so kind as to identify it for me, it would be greatly appreciated.

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The quote about punishing people for being in a relationship was a general statement... as in not necessarily directed towards you. I didn't think I needed to clarify as such since like you said you never said anything about punishments. Sorry for the confusion I just didn't think it necessary to over explain.

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Originally Posted by Penthea

I'm okay with couples wanting separate houses. Different people have different tastes whether they're single or not. I just don't like how OP claims her husband is under great misfortune despite being among the lucky minority with access to housing.

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Well my post isn't really about OP. It is simply about the idea that people sometimes treat two people in a relationship as a single unit instead of two separate individuals. I agree with you at least he can share her house, but he is within his rights as a paying customer on a individual account to want his own separate one as well. That's all.