WHY ARE YOU PLAYING A BARD IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SING?!

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Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

Foe has nothing to do with this since it doesn't penalize you for playing it. "Use it if needed" refers to a healer being dangerously low on MP or was just raised.

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Since you didn't mention an specific song in your post, we can assume that you won't use Foe either. And I just mentioned in my post you quoted, I know about Foe doesn't decrease your DPS. Don't take this as an offense, but it's important to be clear when you give an opinion, if you say "if needed"; you should detail "when is needed" and "why is needed", for example. This helps to avoid confusion, because you're giving complete info and there're no empty spots in your statements.

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Originally Posted by Cyrus-Wallace

Since you didn't mention an specific song in your post, we can assume that you won't use Foe either. And I just mentioned in my post you quoted, I know about Foe doesn't decrease your DPS. Don't take this as an offense, but it's important to be clear with you give an opinion, if you say "if needed"; you should detail "when is needed" and "why is needed", for example. This helps to avoid confusion, because you're giving complete info and there're no empty spots in your statements.

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I've posted numerous times in this thread. Not my fault if you only read one of those posts and got the wrong impression.

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Originally Posted by CSX

Point is people forget they have those 3 skills when their entire hot bar slots are filled with DPS skills, in their minds they're playing a DPS class. Just remind them, not that hard. . .

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Never mind the fact they had to go through the job quests to get them

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Originally Posted by Cyrus-Wallace

Since you didn't mention an specific song in your post, we can assume that you won't use Foe either. And I just mentioned in my post you quoted, I know about Foe doesn't decrease your DPS. Don't take this as an offense, but it's important to be clear when you give an opinion, if you say "if needed"; you should detail "when is needed" and "why is needed", for example. This helps to avoid confusion, because you're giving complete info and there're no empty spots in your statements.

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Thank you for saying this good god..

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Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

I've posted numerous times in this thread. Not my fault if you only read one of those posts and got the wrong impression.

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You are such a robot I swear, always so condescending even when admitting your own faults.

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Originally Posted by Yoninxi

Never mind the fact they had to go through the job quests to get them

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The job quest that are all about DPSing, not singing.

Until bard isn't listed as a dps role, (because currently it's qued as a DPS job) they have no obligation to play a pug group a song. They're there as a dps job.

And those who think bard dps isn't even that good at dmg compared to the other jobs, you're right. That's how ffxiv built their damage output, but fact is a bigger number of people who play bard well, are getting higher numbers than blms/smns/monks/Dragoons. (From most of my experience with 4-8-24 man content at least.) Most bards are doing more damage than other damage dealing jobs because they know how to play their job. They're not counted as a support job.

What you're trying to do is make your opinion a fact that's justified to people who are playing their jobs correctly and the way the game system classifies them as. It's not like asking a WHM to use medica because their job is to heal. If you have time to type out a thread about them not playing music, then you have plenty of time to type and ask for a song, at least in Sycrus Tower or 4 mans where healing/dpsing/tanking is a friggin joke and have plenty of time to stop what your doing and type. Can you give the good arguments on this thread a semi-decent response rather than another fking gif you uncreative garbage. I may sound angry, but honestly the way you come off as is like a total idiot..

As a dps, consider it lucky you even get a song from us when in a pug. Songs are a benefit, not a luxury that you will always have, and as a dps job they can choose to play a song or not over being a support.

Bard's damage isn't that much worse and often times, better, because to do better, you have to be a really good player.

An average caster/melee isn't going to outdps a good bard. But a good caster/melee could.

I'm almost always top dps in trial roulettes as a bard

I'm not even the best bard around. There are bards at the same ilevel as me that can do 10-20 more dps.

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Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

Bard's damage isn't that much worse and often times, better, because to do better, you have to be a really good player.

An average caster/melee isn't going to outdps a good bard. But a good caster/melee could.

I'm almost always top dps in trial roulettes as a bard

I'm not even the best bard around. There are bards at the same ilevel as me that can do 10-20 more dps.

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Yes this is what I mean in my post above yours, most bards are just good-skilled as their dps because rotations and moving is easy, so they have every right to play their job as a dps role over a support role

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Originally Posted by GalaxyGirl

Yes this is what I mean in my post above yours, most bards are just good-skilled as theirdps because rotations and moving is easy, so they have every right to play their job as a dps role over a support role

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So why not sing and add more utility to the party if bards have one of the easiest rotations and can move freely?

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Originally Posted by TeaTimeBear

Thank you for saying this good god..



You are such a robot I swear, always so condescending even when admitting your own faults.

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Fault? What fault? You're being the condescending ones to think a bard doesn't know what foe does. That is common knowledge at this point. Also, my entire argument was based on "dealing good dps" so why the urge to bring up foe? Obviously, foe is excluded because it doesn't lower my damage. Trying a bit too hard to be antagonistic there.