Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

Well....I've had the wolfram tassets and mask made. I've been lucky enough to get them both pentamelded for less than 500K with materia I had on hand. Looking at Lucael_Shikaree's pentamelded wolfram cuirass has convinced me to obtain that next. Now that I'm out of materia, though, I don't look forward to pentamelding it...

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Originally Posted by mythicrose

Well....I've had the wolfram tassets and mask made. I've been lucky enough to get them both pentamelded for less than 500K with materia I had on hand. Looking at Lucael_Shikaree's pentamelded wolfram cuirass has convinced me to obtain that next. Now that I'm out of materia, though, I don't look forward to pentamelding it...

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I'm really not so sure its worth it. I mean, I want it to be, because farming for it would give me something to do, and our High Allagan chest drops in T9, but crunching the numbers it just doesn't seem to be worth it to me. The Wyrm's Mail (i90 Myth) has a stat weight of 41.696 while a Wolfram with Crit+33 & Det+6 would have a weight of 43.207. That is basically only 1½ STR more than Wyrms, which granted is better, but you would need to overmeld a grade 4 materia into slots 3 AND 4, which could be a financial disaster if you got unlucky. I suppose it could make it ok to use if you needed the acc, or could replace another item with a non-acc item, but that would depends on the items you have available and could change depending on your next drops.

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Originally Posted by Itseotle

I'm really not so sure its worth it.

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Don't forget that it looks neat.

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Originally Posted by Itseotle

I'm really not so sure its worth it. I mean, I want it to be, because farming for it would give me something to do, and our High Allagan chest drops in T9, but crunching the numbers it just doesn't seem to be worth it to me. The Wyrm's Mail (i90 Myth) has a stat weight of 41.696 while a Wolfram with Crit+33 & Det+6 would have a weight of 43.207. That is basically only 1½ STR more than Wyrms, which granted is better, but you would need to overmeld a grade 4 materia into slots 3 AND 4, which could be a financial disaster if you got unlucky. I suppose instead of adding crit, you could add Accuracy, but would that be any better?

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The cuirass already has 34 accuracy on it so you can't add to it. Try to get to 23 Det then meld straight crit. Would have to be all IV materia to cap. $$$

That's what I did, sorta.

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Originally Posted by whiskeybravo

The cuirass already has 34 accuracy on it so you can't add to it. Try to get to 23 Det then meld straight crit. Would have to be all IV materia to cap. $$$

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Yea thats what I mean, huge dollar signs lol. Det IV and Crit IV are 100%, but then you would still have room for 3 Crit IVs, which on my server run for about 90k+ each, and at less than 15% chance of success that seams VERY expensive. When you look at it, your basically paying that much money for 34 acc. So I guess it depends on what items you currently have if its worth it or not.

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Originally Posted by whiskeybravo

The cuirass already has 34 accuracy on it so you can't add to it. Try to get to 23 Det then meld straight crit. Would have to be all IV materia to cap. $$$

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Yea thats what I mean, huge dollar signs lol. Det IV and Crit IV are 100%, but then you would still have room for 3 Crit IVs, which on my server run for about 90k+ each, and at less than 15% chance of success that seems VERY expensive. When you look at it, your basically paying that much money for 34 acc. So I guess it depends on what items you currently have if its worth it or not.

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Originally Posted by BlackThought

That's what I did, sorta.

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Ah nice, not to grasp at straws, but you wasted the last meld. A crit 1 materia would have netted you 0.404 weight as opposed to the 0.325 weight of 1 DET. You could have even squeezed a Grade II materia in that slot with relative ease. But your stat weight is only 0.6874 higher than mine, so we are basically even. If you could convert that excess 14 accuracy into something (cap is 510 right?) then the gap would get larger. But thats the point I'm trying to make. The crafted body is only good if you can make use of the ACC on it. At least in my opinion.

Yeah I was kind of at wit's end by then.

I'm personally a little lost on upgrades for dragoon at this point. One of our old raid members came back recently and is going to main war tank, which I have been doing for the last 3 or 4 months. Now that we have a good chunk of people through t5 I might be going back to Dragoon for 2nd coil, but I need to upgrade a bit since SMN has been my main dps class since we had several other capable dragoons.

I'd ultimately like the get the Levi spear, but until then the Allagan spear is what I'm after since t5 is almost laughably easy now. My weakest piece at the moment is the allagan pants, but I need the accuracy on those especially if I get the Allagan spear. Levi spear would help more, then I could upgrade the pants and keep the Wyrm's mail for now. The Levi spear + w. Astrum hose seems to be a much better trade off then Allagan spear + w. Astrum mail. Right now I'm at 486 accuracy which is close to perfect for 2nd coil, I can drop 10-15 but really don't want to drop ~40.

Oh well, about the Cuirass... it all depends from play style and attitude as a player. If you have the patience to farm, then go for it. If you're not, no big deal: we know that the pentameld chest is not "necessary" at all. About the financial crisis, I've never been rich and when I started the belt, body and head my budget was like 600k. With one Spiritbond set (I was forced to buy pieces, since as you can see I have not crafting job levelled) you can get a Materia IV (det, chr and acc are in the same price range on my server 120-200k, sometimes I got two in the same set), or do full or half money to buy one. Plus the myth items helped a bit. I think, anyway, it depends from your server prices and economy that can really make the difference in this scenario.