Airship Guide

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Originally Posted by Nyalia

Thanks for the distances! But, where's the confirmation of Ferberite?

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Heeeyar!

http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4fyljusf.jpg

EDITED LIES: 9x of those 18x Aetherochemical Fiber were found in 23 as well.

Still not making any conclusion on this... but is anyone else noticing a much lower drop rate on IV materia since 3.2?

I have 32 airships and have only pulled IV materia off a couple ventures since 3.2. Prior I would see close to 100 IV materia on a good day.

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Originally Posted by Mjollnir

Heeeyar!

9x of those 18x Aetherochemical Fiber were found in 23 as well.

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I appreciate the confirmation! I still think it's wrong, so it's likely either a typo on SE's part, or they have 23 flagged as actually being 25 internally. Patterns are a thing! They should continue! I wonder if that means 25 will drop Birch? Anyway, I know it isn't important, but I'm obsessive and like my patterns ^^;


EDIT: Err, wait, how can 9x of those Aetherochemical Fibers be from 23? Your log shows Ferberite and Cassia logs from 23. Are you saying you obtained three items drops from one sector in a single run?



Xenora - before 3.2, drop rates for materia IVs in sectors 11-22 were about 4x as high as drop rates for materia IIIs in those sectors. I wonder if the addition of grade V materia to some of those sectors has taken the chance for Vs directly from the IVs? Actually, has anyone obtained a (non-DoL/DoH) IV materia from sectors 18+ since 3.2 dropped? I don't think I've seen any reports of IVs, just IIIs and Vs...

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Originally Posted by Nyalia

EDIT: Err, wait, how can 9x of those Aetherochemical Fibers be from 23? Your log shows Ferberite and Cassia logs from 23. Are you saying you obtained three items drops from one sector in a single run?

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Just went back and checked the actual log (I had taken the ss before your post) and it turns out I'm talking out of my finely molded posterior. It was 2x separate drops of 9x fibers at Sector 15, which was the first stop on that flight.

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Originally Posted by Mjollnir

Just went back and checked the actual log (I had taken the ss before your post) and it turns out I'm talking out of my finely molded posterior. It was 2x separate drops of 9x fibers at Sector 15, which was the first stop on that flight.

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Okay, thanks, that makes more sense!

(The reason I was doubting the pattern-breaking Ferberite is because mistakes like this where a drop from one sector is thought to be from another are super easy to make!)

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Originally Posted by Nyalia

Actually, has anyone obtained a (non-DoL/DoH) IV materia from sectors 18+ since 3.2 dropped? I don't think I've seen any reports of IVs, just IIIs and Vs...

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Ask, and ye shall receive:
http://i.imgur.com/CCvuojb.png

Excellent, thank you again! ^.^

Whomever just entered data on the logs spreadsheet - thank you so much! INT and Heaven's Eye materia reported for SC23, giving us the full materia list for the new sectors (assuming there are only two new sectors). Sorry the item dropdowns were a little broken - they should be fixed now.

As promised. Sorry slow to getting it up but T5 materia from SC21. Also it usually takes our airships 46-72 hours to do their trips so it takes a bit of time before can give more results on things. We did get some Tincalconite from sector 15 and music score from sector 18 (didn't get screens of those tho)

http://i.imgur.com/nFRFZ42.png

Images in the OP have been updated with all the information that I have. Please let me know if it's missing anything or if anything is wrong. I omitted the Grade II materia which is possible to drop from early sectors because it's such a super rare drop that no one cares about. I can add them if desired, but I've only heard a handful actually even reported.

Waiting on confirmation for the post above me before adding the Tinc in SC15 and A World Apart in SC18.


EDIT: A very useful piece of info that I do not yet have is the distance from sector 23 to sector 24. That'll let me update my trip planners for trips that hit both sectors.

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Originally Posted by Nyalia

I appreciate the confirmation! I still think it's wrong, so it's likely either a typo on SE's part, or they have 23 flagged as actually being 25 internally. Patterns are a thing! They should continue! I wonder if that means 25 will drop Birch? Anyway, I know it isn't important, but I'm obsessive and like my patterns ^^;

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Strictly speaking, SC01 is #0, and said offset continues until Diadem (Hard) appears in the list. SC23 is then #23, and SC24 is #24. There does not appear to be any additional sectors beyond that.

While I now have 23 and 24 unlocked, I won't have a ship return for 13+ hours, so I unfortunately can't answer your other question :x

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Originally Posted by Hempen_Kecks

Strictly speaking, SC01 is #0, and said offset continues until Diadem (Hard) appears in the list. SC23 is then #23, and SC24 is #24. There does not appear to be any additional sectors beyond that.

While I now have 23 and 24 unlocked, I won't have a ship return for 13+ hours, so I unfortunately can't answer your other question :x

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You can just check navigational charts on one of your airships without needing to recall it I thought.

Hey Neri, hope all is well!

Just confirming a Faded copy of A World Apart drops from Sector 23 as well.

http://i.imgur.com/fQECG8R.png

Distance from start to 23

http://i.imgur.com/KXAqD2y.png

From 23 to 24

http://i.imgur.com/b1pwxLP.png

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About sector 24 and iron voyage spoils, is it normal that most of us have been getting C rank from it? Is it possible that they could have added some sort of stat threshold to this sector? So far I've had 8 voyages in this sector, 7 of them were C and 1 was B, the B rank one had one single materia V in it. Also out of 8 voyages I've only had one single iron voyage spoil so far.

Just to confirm, the orchestrion scroll drops from sector 23 right? If that's the case then I believe there might be a mistake with the pictures in the first post, the scroll is listed under section 24 instead of 23.

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Originally Posted by Nyalia

Waiting on confirmation for the post above me before adding the Tinc in SC15 and A World Apart in SC18.

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This was my bad, I was in a rush to post and put up where I just sent the ships out to, instead of where I got the items from lol. But was SC7 for Tinc and SC23 for music scroll. As others have already posted so yea, sorry again @.@

http://i.imgur.com/flfY1pv.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Mea8tZE.jpg

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Originally Posted by Jashynvald

You can just check navigational charts on one of your airships without needing to recall it I thought.

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You can do that to find the distance from home to a sector, but unless I'm missing something, since you can't plot a course in that view, you can't see a sector to sector distance (23 to 24 in this case).

Cluster from 24 is Deep Green! Not that it's the most exciting thing there, anyways...

https://i.imgur.com/gw07BXn.png

Hi everybody, I would like to know if you need to unlock sector 23 before being able to unlock the 24th. Thanks in advance

As someone who just likes to look up builds and send ships out, is there already an updated collector's quartet, factoring in the new Viltgance parts?

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Originally Posted by kobisaki

Hi everybody, I would like to know if you need to unlock sector 23 before being able to unlock the 24th. Thanks in advance

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Nope, you don't need 23 to get 24. Just keep going to 21 until you unlock 24.

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Originally Posted by Ilmoran

You can do that to find the distance from home to a sector, but unless I'm missing something, since you can't plot a course in that view, you can't see a sector to sector distance (23 to 24 in this case).

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You can plot a course, and I already took a screenshot of the distance between 23 and 24, the distance is 19 + 13 from surv.

Also, to further support the theory that unlocking sector is RNG, here's the result of one of my low surveillance airships:

http://i.imgur.com/kksLU2x.png

http://i.imgur.com/Z0Ykat5.png

And for anyone gathering drop rate data of iron voyage spoil, I'm at 1 spoil out of 12 voyages so far.

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Originally Posted by SokiYagami

Just to confirm, the orchestrion scroll drops from sector 23 right? If that's the case then I believe there might be a mistake with the pictures in the first post, the scroll is listed under section 24 instead of 23.

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oops, thanks, I'll fix it!

Sector 23, Deep-red Clusters and Tier V Heaven's Eye materia. (3x - yay!)

Oh, it says Heaven's Aim on the main loot-list graphic, which confused poor ole me.

http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0uzxzids.jpg

Ok nice. Thank you very much

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Originally Posted by Mjollnir

Sector 23, Deep-red Clusters and Tier V Heaven's Eye materia. (3x - yay!)

Oh, it says Heaven's Aim on the main loot-list graphic, which confused poor ole me.[/IMG]

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Well, I said I'd update the images, I never said I'd do it *right* <.< (fixed, thanks!)

And thanks for the report of Deep-red Clusters. I'll assume Deep-green comes from 24. I wonder if there's a 25 out there for us to find?

Can anyone share their airship build on ones that brought back the good stuff from 23\24? I keep getting C ranks and terrible yields with all different ships (all speed, all retrieval, middle of the pack).

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Originally Posted by alimdia

You can plot a course,

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Weird, I must be missing something because if I view the navigational charts for an airship that's already on a voyage, I can't plot a course, I can only see the home-to-sector distances.

13th voyage

http://i.imgur.com/sxFASsv.png

http://i.imgur.com/HJw8Occ.png

Enter hull, Inv II propellers, Odyssey fore, Enter aft

Hi ! ^^
I have a question :
I'm using airships with Bronco hull, Invincible Rigging, Tatanora Forecastle and Tatanora Aftcastle, to hit the Sector 21 ... but nothing since 3.2 update...
Do I need more than 66 range to unlock sector 23 and 24 ? (Or did I forget another detail ?) ^^'

Edit : Well it doesn't matter anymore... I have sent one airship with a range of 84... Unlock Sector 24 at first try... Don't know if it's RNG or not ^^'
(I will send this one to unlock sector 23)

I think questions were asked about DoL/DoH materia islands before - I've been farming for DoH materia (13-17) pretty much non-stop with 3x airships (we keep one open for Diadem) and have continued to get only III & IV materia (and rarely at that, grumble grumble RNG) and have not unlocked any new islands.

anyone have the list of the item required for last new project? i try to find out online to start to collect them.. but seems require rly few material.. but some high craft.. it's like that? ty

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Originally Posted by Hempen_Kecks

Cluster from 24 is Deep Green! Not that it's the most exciting thing there, anyways...

https://i.imgur.com/gw07BXn.png

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Originally Posted by Nyalia

Well, I said I'd update the images, I never said I'd do it *right* <.< (fixed, thanks!)

And thanks for the report of Deep-red Clusters. I'll assume Deep-green comes from 24. I wonder if there's a 25 out there for us to find?

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He listed above that deep-green come from 24 =P

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Originally Posted by Loony_BoB

I think questions were asked about DoL/DoH materia islands before - I've been farming for DoH materia (13-17) pretty much non-stop with 3x airships (we keep one open for Diadem) and have continued to get only III & IV materia (and rarely at that, grumble grumble RNG) and have not unlocked any new islands.

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There's no question here.... but I assume its about DoH V materia? I haven't gotten any yet myself.

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Originally Posted by RareScrewdriver

As someone who just likes to look up builds and send ships out, is there already an updated collector's quartet, factoring in the new Viltgance parts?

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Not yet.

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Originally Posted by Zantitrach

He listed above that deep-green come from 24 =P

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See, the trick is, I don't actually know how to read. I just fake it really well. <.<

Anyone else getting far less stuff back from their airships?

I used to get decent amount of dravanian motes and a ton of IV materia prior to the patch.

Since the patch I've only gotten a set of tier 3 gatherer materia (4), and the rest of the runs minus one return of two dinosaur fossils have only brought back the super common materials.

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Originally Posted by Hanmerreborn

Anyone else getting far less stuff back from their airships?

I used to get decent amount of dravanian motes and a ton of IV materia prior to the patch.

Since the patch I've only gotten a set of tier 3 gatherer materia (4), and the rest of the runs minus one return of two dinosaur fossils have only brought back the super common materials.

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Yeah, it's been remarkably bad. Just haven't really called it a big enough sample size to chalk it up to anything other than bad luck.

I don't particularly understand the way the loot works with regards to the first thing you find and the second thing you find - if they're different tables or something. But I thought I'd share this result!

https://i.imgur.com/ffWDmGd.png

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Originally Posted by Hempen_Kecks

I don't particularly understand the way the loot works with regards to the first thing you find and the second thing you find - if they're different tables or something. But I thought I'd share this result!

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Well that's an extremely disappointing extraction yield! :)

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Originally Posted by Hempen_Kecks

I don't particularly understand the way the loot works with regards to the first thing you find and the second thing you find - if they're different tables or something. But I thought I'd share this result!

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Well, your Mammet filled out that log... Unfortunately for you, I think it's learned sarcasm.


As far as I know, the two drops are calculated independently of each other. My understanding is that the chance of getting a second drop is based only on your Surveillance score, and your chance of getting higher yields is based only on your Retrieval score, and all three checks (1 survey, 2 retrieval) are all independent dice rolls.

But, however it works, I'm fairly certain the cacluation is set up such that you can never get "poor" or "below average" yields from early sectors, and the later the sector, the more Retrieval you need to have the same effect.

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Originally Posted by Hempen_Kecks

I don't particularly understand the way the loot works with regards to the first thing you find and the second thing you find - if they're different tables or something. But I thought I'd share this result!

https://i.imgur.com/ffWDmGd.png

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Can you post your airship stats pls.

I'm trying to farm zu mounts for my FC and I'm wondering if a high surveillance build is a good idea or not.