Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

Ran multiple Stone Vigil Normal runs... please for the love of god, wear proper tank gear & if it isn't dungeon/melded gear, don't expect healers to heal you through mass pulls :mad:

So many DPS wannabe tanks who don't have proper gear and end up being the squishiest thing ever... 800 damage a second is not ok...

I don't have many problems with Chaos either... I mean I use DF all the time and almost all my dungeon runs have random people in it so the examples here are mayb elike.
ten percent of my total runs so....

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Originally Posted by sirDarts

Dunno, I usually don't have issues on Chaos. I even have such nice runs as a run in Fractal where I did not need to heal the tank at all against bosses, and only rarely against trashes, and could fully commit to DPSing, was fun. :)

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You're lucky then :p

In my experience everything sub 55 is mostly on the lower end of the spectrum and absolutely terrible to PUG, especially brayflox, always without fail there's a lv 32 DRK who has no clue how to tank, with the occasional brilliant run but these very rare. On the other hand 55+ tends to be hit and miss mostly and i'd describe it as mediocre on average.

I guess i attract all the "bads" then :L

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Originally Posted by MentheusDreyar

I guess i attract all the "bads" then :L

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Either that, or you just see "bads" everywhere because of confirmation bias or you simply have high standards.

If I'm holding every player to the standard of the top 10%, 90% of the playerbase will be considered bad. People do that all the time in MOBAs and then wonder why there are so many "bads".

Personally, I can't complain about the duty finder. Some runs are rocky, some are smooth, but they all are successful in the end. Even the Brayflox ones where the DRK decides to use toadskin armor >_>

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Originally Posted by Zojha

Either that, or you just see "bads" everywhere because of confirmation bias or you simply have high standards.

If I'm holding every player to the standard of the top 10%, 90% of the playerbase will be considered bad. People do that all the time in MOBAs and then wonder why there are so many "bads".

Personally, I can't complain about the duty finder. Some runs are rocky, some are smooth, but they all are successful in the end. Even the Brayflox ones where the DRK decides to use toadskin armor >_>

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I actually had a Brayflox run, where the Tank was losing aggro all run long (that wouldn't be a problem), but they were unable to dodge the linear AoE of the last boss and died to it 4 times (= it hit him more than 6 times). If after 6 times you can't dodge this easy AoE, that won't change, so we had to kick him...

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Originally Posted by Zojha

Either that, or you just see "bads" everywhere because of confirmation bias or you simply have high standards.

If I'm holding every player to the standard of the top 10%, 90% of the playerbase will be considered bad. People do that all the time in MOBAs and then wonder why there are so many "bads".

Personally, I can't complain about the duty finder. Some runs are rocky, some are smooth, but they all are successful in the end. Even the Brayflox ones where the DRK decides to use toadskin armor >_>

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And there you go making assumptions, just because i have quantifiable evidence. For your information my standards are about the same the game sets for itself, i expect a minimum contribution from people and nothing more. Which is pretty much expecting people to have basic reading skills and use buttons in the right order which i could train a monkey to do in all honestly. I'm thrilled when someone cares enough to contribute more, but i gave up expecting anything from players years ago in any game. But eventually you have to draw the line.

And once again someone's response to any criticism is stupid and outlandish. What prompted you to give that example? Are you saying you expect players whose only job in most cases is hitting buttons to do damage to get out DPS'd by a healer juggling far more responsibility. AND A HEALER ROUGHLY 70 ILV'S BEHIND THEM IN GEAR. at that!? No one is expecting world expert levels of play, only the god damn basic play level even the game wants to you achieve. If you think anyone really expects randoms to get that good, you need to stop spilling these incorrect and stupid thoughts and keep them to yourself, because you devalue not only your own argument but promote it in others which leads no where...

Im sorry but if there's that large a discrepancy and they still can't outperform me they are clearly BAD no way around that. If you think otherwise you are incredibly ignorant.

Even with comparably geared players at 60 i out perform many them just by throwing some dots out and letting my fairy heal while i watch anime. If i can out perform them with bare minimum effort on my part as a healer what does that say about dedicated damage dealers and their skill level? That it is absurdly pathetically low to the point i might as well solo the dungeon...

As the gear discrepancy closes and mechanics force me to heal harder, so does my DPS lead shrink, but 90% of the time i am on par with DPS in DF. Even under geared compared to me, if they had even a single braincell they can out DPS me by miles.

And i see this level of play ALL THE DAMN TIME

Healers standing there like a statue for like 2 minutes when the tank actually doesnt need heal.

95% of dps player base that doesnt know how to press the key for LB (This actually pissed me a lot)

I had a qarn hm run with a warrior who literally never used an enmity generating skill. Not even once through the whole dungeon. And had the nerve to mark targets. If it weren't for myself and the black mage being uber geared we would not have cleared.

Here are some fun ones:

Running Brayflox as AST, checking the tank's gear and it's level 23-24 gear... Alright. Good thing I have a regen and I was lucky that a few Boles dropped early. Fortunately a few tank pieces dropped during the dungeon so it became progressively easier to heal, but aggro was still all over the place even though the tank did seem to have some idea of what they were doing (like they knew when to stun bosses). The NIN died from a cleave attack by the first boss that got the tank and myself as well (who, of course, have healing priority), but other than that there were no casualties. The BLM kneeled to me (xD) and I got all the comms.

Then there was the Fractal run I did (as DRG) with a BRD friend of mine. Went off fine except half way through the final boss my friend's cat decides to power down his PC. :rolleyes: Still went fine though and we finished the boss in good time despite being one dps down and the lack of LB.

And finally, trial roulette (as BLM) dropped me in an in progress Steps of Faith.... which turned out to be a flawless run. So thanks to whoever decided to ragequit before they'd even started. :)

I'm not entirely sure the tank who used nothing but Riot Blade until our healer lost his shit with him and initiated a vote kick wasn't some kind of bot.

I sympathize with the undergeared, though. I had to buy most gear while leveling bard because I got almost exclusively Hotel California Tam-Tara in roulette and queuing for specific instances could take an hour with no usable drops, anyway. On a small server, some low-level items can spike to ridiculous prices (or have no listings at all).