Auto attack: A complete battle system

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Originally Posted by Reika

Funny how you tell me to get over it, when you couldn't get over not having it ^^

Auto-attacks should also use stamina, as they are still weapon swings that take some kind of energy to accomplish.

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SO you Did want this game to get shut down i see. because if it didnt change more and more ppl would have left you have to know this, though you choose to deny it get over it i'm for making this game better and this is a good step

Ok, so i havent ever given an opinion on this subject, for the fact that either system would be fine with me. Ill learn either one...but after reading what the devs said and a few other post....one thing troubles me, and im not sure if it has been discussed before...but what about archer, will it be a auto attack or close and normal arrow attacks...and will that consume a hell of alot of arrows!!! ><
I know there has been talk about reworking the classes...and maybe that means adding a melee attack to archers like FFXI had...but if this is put into the game before that....im curious how the archer will play out. Any info that someone can link me to or has a idea or opnion would be awsome :)

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Originally Posted by CK11

Ok, so i havent ever given an opinion on this subject, for the fact that either system would be fine with me. Ill learn either one...but after reading what the devs said and a few other post....one thing troubles me, and im not sure if it has been discussed before...but what about archer, will it be a auto attack or close and normal arrow attacks...and will that consume a hell of alot of arrows!!! ><
I know there has been talk about reworking the classes...and maybe that means adding a melee attack to archers like FFXI had...but if this is put into the game before that....im curious how the archer will play out. Any info that someone can link me to or has a idea or opnion would be awsome :)

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I really do hope it's more like FFXI. I really enjoy being able to use both a melee and ranged weapon at once on the same class. Auto-attack for ranged weapons would be pretty bad.

Macro for Ranged Attack FTW!! It worked in FFXI, so it will work here too.

I'm glad to hear news about the battle system, and I'm glad they may implement auto attack. I like the way the fights are with it, and of course this doesn't mean that it will makes the game easier (even If that's possible xD).

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Originally Posted by Jigg

I have been playing DC Universe Online, and I really like the way they handle things (at least on the controller side).

They do not have auto-attack, but I think auto-attack works in a FFXIV setting.

Drop the basic attack from the command bar (this is what auto-attack will use)
Hold the Left-Trigger and use the 4 button for the first 4 actions of the command bar
Hold the Right-Trigger and use the 4 buttons for the second 4 actions of the command bar

This however leaves one command without a button...I'm still working on this idea. I just hate having to constantly move around the command bar to select an attack instead of just hitting a bound button combination.

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I think this is an excelant idea, it actually doesn't have to leave a command without a button... make the non triggered use of the current activate button equal the basic attack (which is always equiped) and then drop the command bar to 8

please do NOT implement auto attack!

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Originally Posted by Reika

Oh i am sure most of the people calling for auto attack most likely didn't take into account that almost every battle class has at least 4 basic attacks, each usually having a different effect. Heck, there are some people demanding auto attack that haven't even reached the rank to obtain higher basic attacks...

But it will be interesting to see what they do with all of these. Maybe they will have to scrap all but one for each class and do a 'stance' system.....

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Yeah what about all of the different attacks that the jobs have? I liked having that as well but I guess they'll scrap that too....

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Originally Posted by Shikyo

SO you Did want this game to get shut down i see. because if it didnt change more and more ppl would have left you have to know this, though you choose to deny it get over it i'm for making this game better and this is a good step

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You act as though people only left because the game didn't have auto-attack which is not the case. Most of the people I talked to stopped playing because they wanted more content.


Edit: But like I said before I'll try to keep an open mind about the auto-attack. Maybe it'll be a good thing^^

Cant say I was a fan of auto attack back in the day, but if its faster than XI, allows for more strategic and tension packed battles, and we somehow end up with better looking battle animations and effects, then i'm game. Also hopefully i'll have something to record and put up on my XIV channel. Never expected the game to have been out this long and still have only 1 video up :P

Either way, 1.17 seems like it might go up sometime next week then?

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Originally Posted by Joe_Cool

You act as though people only left because the game didn't have auto-attack which is not the case. Most of the people I talked to stopped playing because they wanted more content.


Edit: But like I said before I'll try to keep an open mind about the auto-attack. Maybe it'll be a good thing^^

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What people seem to be forgetting is that certainly this is to a degree a lack of content. Classes being unique? Lack of content. Introduction of the aggro icon? Lack of content. Problems with little party play in the game. Lack of content. You say people leave the game due to lack of content, well it's one in the same. There's not enough good "content" to keep me hooked on this game. I'd much rather be off playing my Xbox with friends.