Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

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Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez

Additionally, DoT damage isn't increased by Disembowel so in truth FT combo does more than Fracture by a slightly larger margin than you'd think.

The only reason we used Fracture in the rotation at one time is because DoT clipping wasn't a thing you could do (and, with FT at 300 potency instead of the current 330, that combo's avg potency was 650/3=216.67, less than 220). So it padded out one move in our rotation.

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Okay. What's DoT clipping?

Also, DoT damage not increased by disembowel? What?

And what should I put in that cross-class skill slot instead of Fracture, then?

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Originally Posted by YanderePrincess

Okay. What's DoT clipping?

Also, DoT damage not increased by disembowel? What?

And what should I put in that cross-class skill slot instead of Fracture, then?

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"Clipping" is when you refresh it before it drops off. Before, if you had a buffed version up it was impossible to clip at all. Nowadays you just have to make sure you don't clip excessively. How much is considered excessive varies by dot, but you usually don't want more than ~3 seconds or so.

I can't comment on the disembowel thing, because I don't actually play DRG, but that's what the forums report, so I'll run with it. Same with the question of cross-class.

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Originally Posted by Andyman

I've had 1 maiming left side piece since 2.2 launch, meanwhile the bard in my group is 107 and has every bard piece drop from turn 6-8

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Only get one piece was me up until this week when the legs and ring dropped.

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Originally Posted by Viridiana

"Clipping" is when you refresh it before it drops off. Before, if you had a buffed version up it was impossible to clip at all. Nowadays you just have to make sure you don't clip excessively. How much is considered excessive varies by dot, but you usually don't want more than ~3 seconds or so.

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So why would "DoT clipping" not being do-able be a reason to use Fracture?

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Originally Posted by YanderePrincess

So why would "DoT clipping" not being do-able be a reason to use Fracture?

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Because without artificially extending your rotation with fracture, causing chaos thrust/phleb to drop off, you wouldn't be able to overwrite it if it had previously been applied with a buff. The dot simply wouldn't apply at all.

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Originally Posted by Riotpersona

Because without artificially extending your rotation with fracture, causing chaos thrust/phleb to drop off, you wouldn't be able to overwrite it if it had previously been applied with a buff. The dot simply wouldn't apply at all.

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I never saw an inability to reapply my DoT while it was still up regardless of having been applied with a buff previously, on any class.

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Originally Posted by YanderePrincess

I never saw an inability to reapply my DoT while it was still up regardless of having been applied with a buff previously, on any class.

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This was changed in 2.1, but that was the reason DRG used fracture.

I am totally gonna throw in all the DET I can for my Novus Weapon, hate having to deal with RNG when it comes to my DPS

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Originally Posted by YanderePrincess

Also, DoT damage not increased by disembowel? What?

And what should I put in that cross-class skill slot instead of Fracture, then?

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The initial damage of skills (200 on Chaos Thrust, 100 on Fracture) is affected by both Heavy Thrust's damage buff and Disembowel's piercing resistance down debuff. The DoT portion of skills (30/tick for 10 ticks on CT, 20/tick for 6 ticks on Fracture) is not affected by Disembowel.

IR Mercy and any 3 of Bloodbath SecondWind Mantra Foresight. Typically I take the first 3.

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Originally Posted by Riotpersona

This was changed in 2.1, but that was the reason DRG used fracture.

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I pretty much played DRG exclusively pre-2.1 and seriously don't remember ever having that issue. Not gonna say it wasn't the case, just don't remember it ever happening/being an issue.