I think if they were to implement male viera in this way, there would still be enough differences to make it worth adding. It's almost like we don't have a proper elf race in this game anyway... Elezen's proportions don't do the woodland elf niche justice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Omymy
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10-09-2019, 05:54 PMSenn
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10-09-2019, 07:07 PMAlleoDont you know that just because a gender of the race is seen as protector of the forest it totally means that everyone of them, including the player character, has to wear stuff that shows it? ;) How horrible that every single player that does not wear their racial gear goes completely against that race and should feel ashamed! (Yes I am being sarcastic)Quote:
Originally Posted by Senn
There is nothing wrong with the pictures you posted but the person you quoted seems to want to stir up some trouble. Its completely normal that not every single person in a race will behave the same as everyone else or wear the same thing. -
10-09-2019, 07:11 PMFredco191Ooh! I like this design!Quote:
Originally Posted by Senn
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10-09-2019, 07:20 PMGwenorai
Those images above are pretty neato. Is it weird that I like the feet, well not the actual feet but rather the design? I would love them to have those claws but it's very unlikely that's going to happen. I was rather disappointed when the females were brought in and they were lacking the claws.
Edit: I would prefer them to be a bit buffer, but the first image is one I could get behind. Toned and slim. -
10-09-2019, 07:42 PMOmymy6 likes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alleo
I guess we are just a bad bunch of persons trying to make problems. Or just people who think differently from you and don't point fingers at you.
Behave. -
10-09-2019, 07:46 PMBrightmore
A person complains of looks and is using an oversized mog head.
Yeah, sure. Too much for your overly generalized macho man formula.
The concept of art is more to please the eyes, once in game a player is free to dress up as they please.
They are fierce blah blah blah. Like our ancestors were and most of us the only wild heritage is forum Fighting. -
10-09-2019, 07:48 PMOmymyAt least I don't have Justin's Bieber haircut.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brightmore
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10-09-2019, 07:54 PMBrightmore
Approved trademark?
See darling. It's your will. You can use a sprigg cap and still be awesome.
It's more about acceptance than judgment.
It does not matter how one looks, but what one is made off.
If you judge people for being fashionist and for yourself run away from your formula concept, what it makes out of you?
The key here is focus on more build conception than traces, behavior or clothes in said arts. -
10-09-2019, 10:17 PMOmymyThe ad hominem arguments are good for you to laugh at later in your discord group. Here the truth is that they don't carry much weight when it comes to arguments. I know, i know, i said something about your haircut, but thats the game you wanted to play, dontcha.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brightmore
Ye dude, i came to FF XIV to play the macho man formula. This game full of weeb things like anime catboys and half-naked anime catgirls. Look, Hyurs are fine, Auris are cool, nothing against Miqote because some people wanna be cute and all that stuff, but one race like that its enough. Lalas... well, potato stew is tasty if you cook it good enough tho.Quote:
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Kay?Quote:
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I'm sure my ancestors didn't hunt with cat ears and miniskirts. But well, I don't have the history career so I can't confirm it.Quote:
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10-09-2019, 10:43 PMGwenorai
I'll bite Omymy, because I find you endearing, uwu. How would you like them to look?
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10-09-2019, 11:04 PMSomeRandomHumanI can answer that: Roegadyn with bunny ears and teeny tiny cotton tail.Quote:
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Because apparently hi-jacking a race is easier than earning what is it? 120k mgp? -
10-10-2019, 12:37 AMOmymyAnother fan. Get in line and don't make any noise, ok? *pat pat*Quote:
Originally Posted by SomeRandomHuman
Look, the first thing would be to take an Elezen and an Au Ra.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gwenorai
You grab the Elezen and remove the stick that is embedded where we already know. Second, we let a few years go by before the Auri passes the edgy vein and sells Evanescence's albums on Ebay.
We put them together so that the male Viera comes out: a tall male (by pure logic), athletic since we are talking about races that live in the woods and in the wild environment. As for his constitution I would say that a muscular body, something more than highlander but without being too exaggerated. To note that we have before us a hunter and not a hippie elf with a fedora who smokes tobacco imported from Ishgard near his chimney made by Potatofells.
The result must be an imposing race but one that maintains the elegance of females of the same species. If we could put some hair would be fine, but seeing that the females of the same race do not have I imagine we should forget.
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10-10-2019, 12:46 AMGwenorai
Okay, I can actually get behind that imagery. I wouldn't object to them being that muscular. But I can imagine they'd have to be pretty damn slender, just with zero body fat going on. So basically a more developed elezen with better proportions and muscle development? What about their emotes? Standoffish? Aggressive? Aloof? Etc.
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10-10-2019, 12:47 AMMrKusakabeFirst I was delighted I taught you something new, but you use "ad hominem" wrong. Not only because Mr. Brightmore mentioned the irony in your statement (which is spot-on by the way), but also because "ad hominem" is used to attack the person itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Omymy
Saying that you wear a "oversized mog hat" is not ad hominem attack, it's a fact. (Or your other funky stuff you wear according to the Lodestone right now)
But merely stating facts like the hairstyle, the car someone drives or the favourite dishes are not ad hominem - it would require you to go behind that and hit directly a person's attitude as the very translation from Latin suggests.
Or in very short words: You lack the chain of "accusation" [All Lalafell players are X] and "ridiculing of a person's trait" [...because they love small characters, so they must be X!]. Here, just facts have been pointed out (haircut, Mogry hat).
Also, I'd like to have male bunnies. It would be fantastic to get out of the stereotype of "large man, women looking up to her darling" sort of Telenovela stuff. Now the men are precious. And pointy, huge, fluffy ears :)
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10-10-2019, 01:24 AMOmymyTo discredit someone's argument by referring to their appearance is clearly ad hominem.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrKusakabe
If your a** hurts from saying the Lalas are kids, pour pomade. I hope I don't have to be reading the anecdotes about your life with that font you use so pompous and some photoshop retouching to dress up the nonsense of the day. At least don't tell me, dont care about it.
But well, I already have another potato fan that is going to chase me through all the topics. What a kind, happy race we have in the game. -
10-10-2019, 02:34 AMSenn
Hey, let's try to keep things on topic here.
It looks like there's another version with tattoos as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fredco191
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGV6dKyUUAAOanF.jpg
by twitter user: @Amo_Embersign
Very cool stuff. :D
Personally, I don't think they should be more developed than elezen... Elezen are already well built. If you haven't before, try making an elezen alt. If male viera does come out, there probably won't be a muscle slider (the ear slider will take that slot up), so I would prefer if it's not over the top buff. Just give me Omega M's physique and I'd be happy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gwenorai
You know, I'm always sort of bummed out by elezen. Elves are supposed to be elegant, graceful, and mysterious, but elezen are none of that. We're just lumbering giraffes with awful proportions and an unflattering run cycle. Elezen seem more like the haughty type, too. If possible, I really would prefer if male viera would fill that elf niche by being slim, handsome, and elegant. There's no need to make them a mix of elezen and au ra. Keep it as elezen, but fix the proportions just like they did with female viera. -
10-10-2019, 02:51 AMZanarkand-RonsoI agree......but at the same time I actually think it looks kinda cute.Quote:
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10-10-2019, 02:52 AMZanarkand-RonsoOk I like it even more Now <3Quote:
Originally Posted by Senn
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10-10-2019, 03:09 AMSennI always really liked the thought of having tribal body tattoos as an option :D You can see he has some on his armsQuote:
Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso
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10-10-2019, 03:19 AMHalivelEmotes, huh... maybe same coldness as females have, but with some wildness?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gwenorai
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10-10-2019, 04:27 AMSennKind of like the females - a bit reserved and cool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Halivel
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10-10-2019, 05:26 AMzeylos
what is going on on this thread now lol?
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10-10-2019, 06:50 AMValyrianBloodDude, did u like ever looked at any of the FF protags? They are all pretty anime boys...If u want macho man formula maybe a JMMORPG isn't the right place for u..?Quote:
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10-10-2019, 06:52 AMBrightmore
Monsieur Zeylos! Welcome back!
Same stuff, different nicknames.
It's like a rollercoaster. -
10-10-2019, 07:15 AMzeylosthanks xD I guess is the same thing with haters coming insulting ppl getting reactions and bye. This is getting old SE we need more info soonQuote:
Originally Posted by Brightmore
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10-10-2019, 07:18 AMzeyloshttps://i.pinimg.com/originals/a1/8e...5663051bb1.jpgQuote:
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Male Viera MCH image leaked
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10-10-2019, 07:34 AMOmymyDon't worry, next time I'll use /irony and /sarcasm so your head doesn't hurt too much.Quote:
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10-10-2019, 08:54 AMSenn
slim, but toned
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyZ4CV5V4AMhwkG.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyjcgiIUcAAXtFN.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dyjcc46V4AA6Y_3.jpg
art by twitter user @kugelcruor_Draw
Please check them out as well.
I prefer slightly less broad shoulders, but I like how the torso is not so wide.
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here's more by the same artist
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7kT2b2U0AINg5C.jpg
it seems like the male viera's shoulders are less broad than the elezen's in comparison. In the picture, male viera has a smaller frame in general than the elezen it looks like. If it is translated like that into the game, that would be perfect. -and man, if only elezen actually looked like that. What a shame.
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10-10-2019, 09:08 AMMelichoirThat aint toned, man. Thats being cut from wood, fight club style.Quote:
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Also yeah, his elezen is more appealing IMO. The in game models of Elezen are...not great IMO. I know people love how they look but the proportions just look really shot to me. -
10-10-2019, 09:14 AMSennHmm yeah on paper it looks like that, just like in male au ran fanart. But in game, the muscles look a bit more smooth and toned. Maybe it's the lighting?Quote:
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But anyway, this twitter user based their male viera art off of what Matsuno described. It's pretty faithful.
Yeah, maybe the 5 people on the server that still play elezen lolQuote:
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10-10-2019, 02:49 PMHalivelThey are actually more popular than Highlanders, Hroths and Roe, according to lalachievments. XD (though I still don't understand how it counts amount of characters but at least it has info about tribes).Quote:
Originally Posted by Senn
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10-10-2019, 02:50 PMSennI was jk, but am surprised to know elezen is more popular than hrothgar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Halivel
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10-10-2019, 06:23 PMAlleoGreat fanart and even better now with the change. Just give him some scars and suddenly he would look even more fierce.Quote:
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10-11-2019, 05:27 AMValyrianBloodDo u need a hug? Like irl? Bc I feel u need one with that attitude of yoursQuote:
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Edit to not derail this entirely: those fanarts look really great, pretty much how I personally wish them to be - also GIVE US MORE SCARS FOR EVERY RACE! (face and body pls) -
10-11-2019, 05:32 AMSturmChurroNot really. He looks like Jeffree Star or something. He even has an oversized puff tail. Dude looks like a fashion designer/makeup artist from California (I'm from California).Quote:
Originally Posted by Alleo
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10-11-2019, 05:37 AMValyrianBloodJefree Star is a bit much lol, but I think this outfit is just not selling 'him'. Imagine some tribal gear and BAM doesn't look like a fashion designer from California anymore. I think he looks fierce (like the look in his eyes, why is 'looking' two entirely diff things in english) but the outfit isn't helping sell it. Love the face tats thoQuote:
Originally Posted by SturmChurro
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10-11-2019, 05:40 AMTheodricStubble, too.Quote:
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10-11-2019, 05:46 AMValyrianBloodI just CANT believe adding some stubble and more epic beard options for everyone is so hard...Like every other mmo has so much more options...Quote:
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10-11-2019, 05:58 AMOmymyWhat I need in real life is none of your business.Quote:
Originally Posted by ValyrianBlood
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10-11-2019, 06:17 AMKobalos
Don't mind me just here for the arts - Weather you love or hate male buns gotta admit there's some talented folks out there - I cant even draw a stick man XD