VIERA AND HROTHGAR COMPLAINT MEGATHREAD

Let’s not turn on eachother, SE is at fault for not caring or paying enough attention to what we actually want, not the players who are just waiting for years for a crumb of hair and hat.

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Originally Posted by Caro178

It is reasonable that they chose to tackle the easier job first so they could give players something tangible while they work to develop updates for Hrothgar.

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You know the second you made a comment like this, it blew out any sense you were making, and only served to enrage people. Me being one of them. THEY CAN PUT IN THE DAMNED WORK IF THEY DON'T TOUCH VIERA FOR A PATCH OR TWO.

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Originally Posted by SassyAssassin

Let’s not turn on eachother, SE is at fault for not caring or paying enough attention to what we actually want, not the players who are just waiting for years for a crumb of hair and hat.

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People have a right to be upset regardless of how much some personally think they shouldn't. Hrothgar are 2 patches behind Viera. There is no telling that Hrothgar will get further updates after Viera get all of theirs.
I just wish SE would take some time to get us up to speed so this worry wouldn't be there. But this will likely fall on deaf ears. 6.4 is already here, nothing we say will change what we already got.

Patiently waiting for 6.5 I guess...

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Originally Posted by Pip_Chick

There is no telling that Hrothgar will get further updates after Viera get all of theirs.

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This sort of statement feels like deliberate "here's a worst-case imagined scenario, now let me complain as if that's what SE is doing".

I see no reason at all for them to suddenly stop the ongoing pattern of giving each batch of hairstyles first to Viera and then later to Hrothgar.

Complain about it if and when they do it, but it's not something that should be assumed will happen.

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Originally Posted by Allegor

I actually like the new hairstyles given to Hroths, I can't believe they made Grynewaht's hair look good.... but... because it has to be said, the gap between their forehead and the hairstyle hairline is rather noticeable, making it obvious that they just slap a "wig" over a bald Hroth and call it a day. Would it really take more than a day to make sure the hairstyles actually fit onto their head...?

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Any time spent is too much time spent, apparently. :)

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Originally Posted by Pip_Chick

People have a right to be upset regardless of how much some personally think they shouldn't. Hrothgar are 2 patches behind Viera. There is no telling that Hrothgar will get further updates after Viera get all of theirs.
I just wish SE would take some time to get us up to speed so this worry wouldn't be there. But this will likely fall on deaf ears. 6.4 is already here, nothing we say will change what we already got.

Patiently waiting for 6.5 I guess...

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Nobody told anybody not to be upset and it is disingenuous to suggest otherwise. I am personally just sick of Viera constantly being presented as the ultimate scapegoat for why Hrothgar can't have nice things. I don't know how many times I have to reiterate that I have always been fine with the devs skipping Viera uptdates for multiple patches if it means Hrothgar are caught up to speed and femHroths can be introduced in 7.0.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

This sort of statement feels like deliberate "here's a worst-case imagined scenario, now let me complain as if that's what SE is doing".

I see no reason at all for them to suddenly stop the ongoing pattern of giving each batch of hairstyles first to Viera and then later to Hrothgar.

Complain about it if and when they do it, but it's not something that should be assumed will happen.

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^ This.

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Originally Posted by Caro178

Nobody told anybody not to be upset and it is disingenuous to suggest otherwise. I am personally just sick of Viera constantly being presented as the ultimate scapegoat for why Hrothgar can't have nice things.

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Because unfortunately devs have made them the reason why Hrothgar doesn't get as much. The devs could have by now caught Hrothgar up to Viera and then start giving out the same hair at the same time, but they've not done so. Viera has gotten first dibs on a lot of stuff, and it makes Hrothgar feel like the unloved child.

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

Because unfortunately devs have made them the reason why Hrothgar doesn't get as much. The devs could have by now caught Hrothgar up to Viera and then start giving out the same hair at the same time, but they've not done so. Viera has gotten first dibs on a lot of stuff, and it makes Hrothgar feel like the unloved child.

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Alternatively consider that updating Hrothgar is a harder job than updating Viera which means putting the same amount of work into both will always yield more results on one than the other. Either way none of this has to do with Viera players and yet it is the players who keep being described as ungrateful YoshiP boot-lickers who are defending the devs' every move when that isn't the case at all. Most of us seem to disagree with their schedule to keep Viera updates rolling while leaving Hrothgar patches behind, but we can't change what has already happened and the chances that our voices can have any impact going forward are minimal, probably nonexistent.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Aren't those fairly stiff on all races – is it definitely worse or have you not looked at others? Are they actually stiffer on female Viera specifically (not male Viera, not Hrothgar) or is there something about the new races compared to the old ones?

Not trying to disprove it anything, but being specific to female Viera seems odd. (Or is this what they were cryptically referring to about fixing issues with male Viera that the female models had?)

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No sadly they don't move at all on Female Viera only.. which so odd. I used these hair on my previous fantasia (Lala/Roe) and they moved flowlessly .