BLM

Did a few test on dummies.

Thunder III

779
803
817
806
1173 (crit)
761

Thunder I


758
802
764
764
786

Not enough cast to mathematically prove anything, but it's enough to convince me that Thunder III Thunderstorm does indeed do more damage than Thunder I.

Irrelevant anyway due to the fact that Thunder I is the ideal filler for regen phase.

Hi fellow BLM, just wanted some info. Been at 50 for a while now and obviously ive got flare. My question is how hard is your Flare spells hitting for? Mine seems very weak only hitting group for maybe 400-450 max, even using my 20% dmg buff im lucky to hit 500. I used to think it was ok until my WHM friend told me his healer aoe does 700 dmg.
Am I doing something wrong or is flare just broken?

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Originally Posted by CarlosDanger

Hi fellow BLM, just wanted some info. Been at 50 for a while now and obviously ive got flare. My question is how hard is your Flare spells hitting for? Mine seems very weak only hitting group for maybe 400-450 max, even using my 20% dmg buff im lucky to hit 500. I used to think it was ok until my WHM friend told me his healer aoe does 700 dmg.
Am I doing something wrong or is flare just broken?

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For a ManaBrurn-type spell it seems very weak, perhaps they should consider changing the spell to match potency with a variable towards how much mana is spent or something.

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Originally Posted by CarlosDanger

Hi fellow BLM, just wanted some info. Been at 50 for a while now and obviously ive got flare. My question is how hard is your Flare spells hitting for? Mine seems very weak only hitting group for maybe 400-450 max, even using my 20% dmg buff im lucky to hit 500. I used to think it was ok until my WHM friend told me his healer aoe does 700 dmg.
Am I doing something wrong or is flare just broken?

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If you're casting Flare, make sure you're casting it with three stacks of Umbral Fire.

Flare is actually a pretty hard ability, doing CM speed runs I typically cast Flare, hit Transpose, cast Blizzard II twice to get three stacks of Umbral, Fire III the highest target, then Flare right as its going off to get a hastened Flare with three stacks of Astral Fire. I feel that this does more damage than just using Fire II, but it requires you to be in melee range. My flares typically hit for 1350.

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Originally Posted by CarlosDanger

Hi fellow BLM, just wanted some info. Been at 50 for a while now and obviously ive got flare. My question is how hard is your Flare spells hitting for? Mine seems very weak only hitting group for maybe 400-450 max, even using my 20% dmg buff im lucky to hit 500. I used to think it was ok until my WHM friend told me his healer aoe does 700 dmg.
Am I doing something wrong or is flare just broken?

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with Raging Strikes & AF3, i've seen flare popping nearly 1,9k crit on praetorium trash.

ok, stupid question but, when i lvl archer for Blm how far do i need to lvl it for usefulness? i am assuming 15 but not sure.:confused:

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Originally Posted by Midian

ok, stupid question but, when i lvl archer for Blm how far do i need to lvl it for usefulness? i am assuming 15 but not sure.:confused:

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15 to unlock the Job quest, 34 if you want Quelling Strikes.

I dont think quelling strikes is that useful.

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Originally Posted by Teranis

Maybe I'm misreading the thunder 2 and 3 tooltips but it looks to me if you were to use thunder 2 in your rotation your thundercloud procs will be nerfed at thunder 2's potency no matter which thunder you use.

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Correct. Your Thunder 3 instand dmg will be that of a full thunder 2 BUT the subsequent tics will be at the potency of thunder3 and the next proc during those tics will also be that of thunder3.
That is why it's better to have a rotation which includes thunder 2 only to have more mana and cast time for fire but use thunder 3 on procs since they cost no mana and no cast time.

What's the ideal rotation or more recommended rotations?