Don't do chaotic raid again

I wonder does this take away from 24 man content in the new exploration zone style content. I like the idea of Chaotic raid. But I would much prefer more dynamic mechanics to the 24 man. Not everyone standing on a platform doing a first fight of a savage fight mechanics.

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Originally Posted by Connor

Yeah, I wasn’t aware of what Supersnow said about how Christmas Eve is probably even more significant there than Christmas Day. Which just raises even more questions lol.

And yeah I was thinking that as well when I was writing. Like, I know they don’t celebrate it the same way we do, but surely they know the significance the holiday has to many people that makes them specifically less likely to log onto an online game that day. But I didn’t know if that was just me being too Eurocentric-minded lol.

Also agree with the PF experience. I’ve been looking out for it on PF since I was like ‘maybe there’s a ton of people actually doing it?’. Yeah, no lol. Not in my purely anecdotal experience based on a sample size of like 3 lol. I guess it’s maybe more an FC activity than PF?

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I was trying to think both North American and European minded before I posted that lol.
Also this feels like content that if you don't have a static or big FC, the only way you will get people to help is if you're well known. They always post videos saying how easy it is to do content, but in my experience if you're not asking around on achievement discords (which were also very thin with asking people to run the raid as well), then you're going to have a hard time on PF. All they had to do was make the raid in a way that it was puggable...

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Originally Posted by MrJPtheAssassin

My issue with this type of content is it always ends up as dead content after the first wave of ppl have cleared it. I still cant find groups to do criterion duns with and chaotic raid is going to be worst bc you need 6x more ppl. I hate it bc there is always something locked behind this content I really want. For Criterion it was the glow version of the last tier tomestone weapons. God, I want my avatar rpr weapon so badly. I going to try to do this new 24 man this weekend but I know if I don't clear before everyone gets bored with it, I will never get to clear it and even more rewards are locked behind died content. I know the community says they want something new but every time we do get something new it dies so fast...

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I just learned that there is not just one mount but TWO mounts for this fight and honestly, that pisses me off even more. To be honest I didn't know all the rewards for this fight, I just knew there was gear, the shoad of darkness mount, and the hairstyle. Today I learned you get a tile of darkness mount as well...WHY DOES THIS FIGHT HAVE SO MANY DAMN REWARDS!?! The main thing is there is no f'ing reason for the hairstyle to be locked behind this damn fight and because it will die off like crit dun the hairstyle price on the MB will never drop that much...it most likely will stay in the 100 mil range. This fight doesn't need 2 mounts, 730 gear, and a hairstyle... The gear and the mounts are enough...

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Originally Posted by MrJPtheAssassin

I just learned that there is not just one mount but TWO mounts for this fight and honestly, that pisses me off even more. To be honest I didn't know all the rewards for this fight, I just knew there was gear, the shoad of darkness mount, and the hairstyle. Today I learned you get a tile of darkness mount as well...WHY DOES THIS FIGHT HAVE SO MANY DAMN REWARDS!?! The main thing is there is no f'ing reason for the hairstyle to be locked behind this damn fight and because it will die off like crit dun the hairstyle price on the MB will never drop that much...it most likely will stay in the 100 mil range. This fight doesn't need 2 mounts, 730 gear, and a hairstyle... The gear and the mounts are enough...

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The content will die because nobody wants to do it

Don’t give it rewards because the content will die

Like I don’t know who this content is for but ripping rewards out of it is exactly the easiest way to ensuring that the content WILL die. And I’m happy to sacrifice mounts and hairstyles for content I won’t do to keep it alive. Content should lock good and desirable rewards

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

The content will die because nobody wants to do it

Don’t give it rewards because the content will die

Like I don’t know who this content is for but ripping rewards out of it is exactly the easiest way to ensuring that the content WILL die. And I’m happy to sacrifice mounts and hairstyles for content I won’t do to keep it alive. Content should lock good and desirable rewards

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My only issue is the hairstyle...the mounts are fine to be in content like this but a hairstyle? If this content has to have gear, 2 mounts, a minion, and a hairstyle just to keep it alive then it shouldn't been made in the first place IMO. The mounts, gear and even the minion should be enough reward for this type of content. My only issue is the hairstyle.

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Originally Posted by MrJPtheAssassin

I just learned that there is not just one mount but TWO mounts for this fight and honestly, that pisses me off even more. To be honest I didn't know all the rewards for this fight, I just knew there was gear, the shoad of darkness mount, and the hairstyle. Today I learned you get a tile of darkness mount as well...WHY DOES THIS FIGHT HAVE SO MANY DAMN REWARDS!?! The main thing is there is no f'ing reason for the hairstyle to be locked behind this damn fight and because it will die off like crit dun the hairstyle price on the MB will never drop that much...it most likely will stay in the 100 mil range. This fight doesn't need 2 mounts, 730 gear, and a hairstyle... The gear and the mounts are enough...

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As much as I enjoy keeping Square Enix accountable for their mistakes - Yoshi-P did promise an uptick in rewards for players, and more player rewards is generally a good thing. So I guess that promise is kinda being worked on.
Now, all these rewards behind an experimental bit of content where the longevity is not a given... thats definitely a questionable choice.

Though, CS3 seem a bit weird with how they space out the rewards, are they not? They add the joke weapons, but only make them drop in map dungeons. They release a PvP Patch, and don't really add any PvP rewards. Then they release another Savage level raid, with 2 mounts, interesting looking gear and a hairstyle design contest winner.

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Originally Posted by MrJPtheAssassin

My only issue is the hairstyle...the mounts are fine to be in content like this but a hairstyle? If this content has to have gear, 2 mounts, a minion, and a hairstyle just to keep it alive then it shouldn't been made in the first place IMO. The mounts, gear and even the minion should be enough reward for this type of content. My only issue is the hairstyle.

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I'll agree on the hairstyle, feels like their idea to put the desirable glamour weapons from the contest in maps. (Instead of pvp, but that's going off topic). Everything else makes sense.

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Originally Posted by Rolks

Oh, this is totally going to direction of Criterion Dungeons. No one will be doing this in four months.

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I give it one month and you will have a hard time finding a PF that is not behind a discord server.

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

Hilariously Christmas Eve is arguably a worse release date from a JP centric perspective because while JP doesn’t celebrate Christmas as strongly as the west they do celebrate Christmas Eve very much as it’s considered a romantic holiday similar to Valentine’s Day

If they were deciding where to stick it purely based on JP’s celebration habits they likely would have stuck it on Christmas Day itself as it’s less important, it just so happens Eve was a Tuesday this year and we only ever get updates on a Tuesday

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We all know mmo players don't have romantic partners, thus this is a non problem.

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Originally Posted by Hyperia

I give it one month and you will have a hard time finding a PF that is not behind a discord server.

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It will probably be a much better experience via those Discord servers than it would through PF though.