A game for 4 year olds

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

Well, if there is one theme from the expansion this topic has certainly demonstrated, it's that different people can have drastically different emotional responses to the same situations be they positive or negative.

I wouldn't say I find character deaths absolutely mandatory to making me emotionally invested in a story, though I was still expecting to have more of a...lasting impression from a world-ending apocalypse instead of having to constantly remind myself that one was happening in the first place.

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Did you feel the same way the other time the game has said (insert really bad and maybe urgent thing is happening here) that it also has given about the same amount of showing? Cause it's been like that more than just now. So if you haven't then I wonder why it didn't stick this time. I let this slide due to the medium we're consuming. That and any other time the story has been all hey this thing is really important but we're not going to change the sky box for all zones. Just a few zones or so. I do wonder how their sky boxes are coded. If there's some kind of limit. For me it worked due to how it's explained. The thinnest places get hit first and the worst. And would see the most change. Not saying that at least visually it couldn't have been better cause they could have done more. Yet I do know some would have wanted sort of what happened during the end of 1.0 where there'd be random stuff happening. Which idk if they can do that

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Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44

If you don't love the current story with a burning passion, you're obviously either just a dirty, rotten, no-good story skipper or you just didn't understand the super deep themes of this expansion. /s.

I get the feeling that these people are the same people who treat those who don't like Rick and Morty as stupid, with how pretentious they are.

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Lmao true. Remember when they said that if we disagree with/hate Hermes that means we don't have or understand depression?
Or when they tried to subtly implied we're supremacist and nazi apologist for preferring the Ancients rather than the sundered? Oh right how could I forget my favorite; apparently we "lack moral" if we do that.

That's wild I tell ya...

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Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44

This is the lore subforum. Emotional manipulation, gaslighting, and fake outrage when they're called out for it are the standard here.

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But it's cool when you guys do it, yeah?

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Originally Posted by Kozh

You do realize your side has been doing the same thing all this time? In fact people like you are the one who started it. When someone said they can't relate to EW, the most used response is "Well, if you have experience loss, you'll appreciate/relate to it"

I won't be this spiteful towards the game if EW simps didn't try to gaslight me into feeling bad in the first place.

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What is it with insisting that people are on "sides" here? I'm not anyone's side and I am perfectly capabale of accepting that someone's experience of grief or loss might lead to them personally feeling alienated by, instead of relating to Endwalker. Art is subjective like that.

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Originally Posted by Kozh

Lmao true. Remember when they said that if we disagree with/hate Hermes that means we don't have or understand depression?
Or when they tried to subtly implied we're supremacist and nazi apologist for preferring the Ancients rather than the sundered? Oh right how could I forget my favorite; apparently we "lack moral" if we do that.

That's wild I tell ya...

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I feel like the only thing you lack is reading comprehension.

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Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44

I get the feeling that these people are the same people who treat those who don't like Rick and Morty as stupid, with how pretentious they are.

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Originally Posted by KariTheFox

I feel like the only thing you lack is reading comprehension.

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I literally called it.

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Originally Posted by sidurgu-12

From what i understand the connection was mainly through Fabula nova crystalis which shared an overarching lore. Totally biased but im glad fnc ended since the games kept getting darker each game.

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Yeah, Type-0 especially is... oof. I'm glad that Type-0 exists, largely because its story is good and something that the medium of games tends to avoid. I'd say 'JRPGs especially', but honestly any genre, even the ones that are frequently about wars like strategy and shooters, rarely go that direction and tone. Incidentally, Type-0 is a game that really shows that even in a story that necessitates a bodycount, you don't need that bodycount to include major characters; a single nameless soldier and his chocobo does all the emotional heavy lifting that story needed.

But as much as I like that Type-0 exists, we don't need more Type-0s. Just the one is fine. (Or it would be if the gameplay itself didn't suck and the game actually functioned on modern platforms; I'd like to see it remade just so it's playable and not janky as hell.)

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Originally Posted by KariTheFox

What is it with insisting that people are on "sides" here? I'm not anyone's side and I am perfectly capabale of accepting that someone's experience of grief or loss might lead to them personally feeling alienated by, instead of relating to Endwalker. Art is subjective like that.

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I feel like the only thing you lack is reading comprehension.

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Originally Posted by Kozh

I feel like the only thing you lack is reading comprehension.

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That clapback doesn't really make sense because I was playing on the "lack morals" part of your post. As in, I don't have an opinion about you lacking morals, I just think you lack reading comprehension because you are reading a lot of stuff that posters are not saying in thier posts. (That you are a nazi, or lack morals, or haven't experienced loss.)

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Originally Posted by Cleretic

Yeah, Type-0 especially is... oof. I'm glad that Type-0 exists, largely because its story is good and something that the medium of games tends to avoid. I'd say 'JRPGs especially', but honestly any genre, even the ones that are frequently about wars like strategy and shooters, rarely go that direction and tone. Incidentally, Type-0 is a game that really shows that even in a story that necessitates a bodycount, you don't need that bodycount to include major characters; a single nameless soldier and his chocobo does all the emotional heavy lifting that story needed.

But as much as I like that Type-0 exists, we don't need more Type-0s. Just the one is fine. (Or it would be if the gameplay itself didn't suck and the game actually functioned on modern platforms; I'd like to see it remade just so it's playable and not janky as hell.)

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That opening was brutal but learning they die the exact same way for tens of thousands of loops was even worse.